Experimenting.. possible new diet. How does it look?

OK so here is the new diet im expirementing with. Im currenty trying to cut. Im about 5'11 230 and 17%ish BF
 
Here is todays diet.
5:30 WW Meal w/ 20 grams protein 35 carbs and 7 fat + about 2 ounces of deli turkey to bump up the protein
7:30 handful of peanuts
10:45 1.5 scoops dymatize protein and 1/2 banana
 pre-workout 12:30- 1 scoop no-shotgun
postworkout-2-2:30 1.5 scoops protein+5g creatine and other half of banana.
5:00 4 oz chicken and green beans maybe some slow carbs
8:00 4 oz chicken and some good fats
10:00 before bed 1 scoop whey
 
critique away
 
also any suggestions of a good routine to follow while cutting would be appreciated.

No food tastes as good as looking good Feels.
"Body Becomes Its Function"

You eat no real food but a banana from 7:30am-5pm.
Might want to rethink your diet and substitute real food for supplements.

^^^ hehe..

one other topic i come across very often is "is it ok to substitute protien bars for meals"!

i mean, what the hell! though it can be done. IMO, it is not better than living on survival rations or perhaps more like avoiding squats and all compound movements and instead doing barbell curls and hope to get big.

supps are like isolations. wholesome foods are like squats and deadlifts.

Anbe Sivam. Period.

have to say mate, thats a pretty poor diet. you are going to be starving. protein shakes do not substitute food, they are an aid. theyre just not substantial enough, especially for someone your size.

Bench Press Max - 170kg @ 100kg
Squat Max - 220kg @100kg
Deadlift Max - 275kg @100kg

Weight - 90kg

also, at 17%bodyfat, all you really need to do is cut the junk from your original diet to see a dramatic reduction in bodyfat.

Bench Press Max - 170kg @ 100kg
Squat Max - 220kg @100kg
Deadlift Max - 275kg @100kg

Weight - 90kg

OK ok so here i what i have come up with. I checked out a carb/calorie cycling diet on T-nation:
http://www.t-nation.com...e.do?article=05-180-diet

I read the thing over and this is what i came up with.
High Carb Day: 330 protein, 340 carb and no more than 40 fat
Moderate carb day: 330 protein, 275 carb and no more than 40 fat
Low Carb: 330 protein, 200 carb and no more than 40 fat.

The days each will apply will go something like this: Off days(weekend and wednesday) will be low carb day. Moderate day will be back day and arm day. And High carb day will come on chest day and leg day.

According to the article the carb breakdown throughout the day will be something like this- 25% at waking, 50% immediately post workout, and the other 25% 60-90 minutes postworkout. The only concern i have with this is the amount of carbs i will be taking in immediately post workout. Any comments on that would be apprecaited.

That being said, today is chest day, so high carbs. Here is what my diet will look like according to what i've planned out for today.
Wake(5:30) 2 cups egg whites and 1 cup oatmeal.
8:00 - 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oatmeal and a few slices of cucumber.
11:00 8 oz chicken breast, a few peanuts and some more cucumber slices.
2:00 Double meat chicken, and spinach salad from subway and a little bit of olive oil as dressing.
4-4:30 1 scoop NO shotgun.
6:30 postworkout, 2 scoops whey 3 scoops waxy maize and an apple.
8:00 chicken breast and rice

No food tastes as good as looking good Feels.
"Body Becomes Its Function"

You seem to be very worried about fat. Fats don't make you fat, excess calories do.

Yes, but fats contain lots of calories, and some fats clog arteries which can, in time, lead to a variety of problems, so don't ignore them. Still, I agree, you need more real food. You can still control your calorie and protein intake by eating real food.

175 lbs
47 48 years old
Feeling pretty good

designer


Yes, but fats contain lots of calories, and some fats clog arteries which can, in time, lead to a variety of problems, so don't ignore them. Still, I agree, you need more real food. You can still control your calorie and protein intake by eating real food.

I am not talking about  adding foods with high saturated fat content. I am talking about good fats that are essential for homeostasis and muscle growth. The diet has to be balanced.  Good fats (mono,polyunsaturated) lower blood cholesterol (LDL's) levels and raise HDL levels. I think he knows the difference between what is good and what is bad.


I was talking mostly about the first meal and the last meal.

Yes, true some healthy fats are necessary but often people do not discriminate between the two. Still, even too much of a good thing is bad and that includes healthy fats which are also high in calories. Do not eliminate them completely but eat controlled and balanced amounts.

175 lbs
47 48 years old
Feeling pretty good

OK fat is a bit low. And in my opinion, for having the carbs spread out over only 3 meals basically, the amounts of carbs seem a bit high. So should i maybe drop say 50-60 grams of carbs total from each day and add a bit more fat?
 
For example, instead of the original numbers it would look somethin like this:
High Day 300 protein 300 carb 65-70 fat
Mod Day 300 protein 225 carbs 65-70 fat
Low day 300 protein 150 carb 65-70 fat
 does that maybe look better?

No food tastes as good as looking good Feels.
"Body Becomes Its Function"

M0n3yman


OK fat is a bit low. And in my opinion, for having the carbs spread out over only 3 meals basically, the amounts of carbs seem a bit high. So should i maybe drop say 50-60 grams of carbs total from each day and add a bit more fat?
 
For example, instead of the original numbers it would look somethin like this:
High Day 300 protein 300 carb 65-70 fat
Mod Day 300 protein 225 carbs 65-70 fat
Low day 300 protein 150 carb 65-70 fat
 does that maybe look better?

Yeah that is better. that is about a 40/40/20 at 65g of fat on your high carb day. I would give that a try for two weeks and see what happens.