Epistane Cycle

The posts I have read, everyone seems friendly and willing to help, so I have a few questions about cycling PH's.  This will be my first cycle fyi.

So I plan on doing a 4 week cycle of Epistane, I've done a bit of research and this one seems to have more good side effects than bad, and if I cycle it correctly, I shouldn't run into the bad ones.


14 days prior to the cycle I'm loading up on Hawthorn berry pills, 1 AM + 1 PM for blood pressure.

Since it's my first cycle I'm going to take the dosing lightly.

Week 1: 10mg Epistane, 1 AM + 1 PM scoop of Cycle Support
Week 2: 20mg Epistane, 1 AM + 1 PM scoop of Cycle Support
Week 3: 20mg Epistane, 1 AM + 1 PM scoop of Cycle Support
Week 4: 30mg Epistane, 1 AM + 1 PM scoop of Cycle Support

Immediately at the end of Week 4, starting my 4 week PCT.

Week 5: 2 AM + 2PM pills of PCT, AM + PM of Hawthorn Berry
Week 6: 2 AM + 2PM pills of PCT, AM + PM of Hawthorn Berry
Week 7: 2 AM + 2PM pills of PCT, AM + PM of Hawthorn Berry
Week 8: 2 AM + 2PM pills of PCT, AM + PM of Hawthorn Berry

I'm going to be taking Anabolic Innovations PCT in the AM and PM, as well as loading up on more Hawthorn berry, and starting creatine back up again.

1) First question would be, does that look like a good cycle, planned out and everything?

Next questions are about some side effects...

2) The testicular shrinking, I haven't really read too much bad about Epistane, but it's a prohormone, I know it's most likely going to happen, anything to help prevent that?

3) Natural testosterone being created, as far as I've read, PCT is supposed to help my body to continue back in the natural process of testosterone being created, anything else I can do to help that out?

4) Liver damage, I know the Cycle Support has Milk Thistle for it, I don't know about PCT, should I get some Milk Thistle for my PCT?

Lastly..

5) My other supplements, all good to take while on cycle?  Such as....BCAA's, Leucine?

Thanks much.

I would get some

eucommia longifolia aka Longjack it works very well to stimulate LH.

http://www.trueprotein....aspx?cid=58&pid=6872

MAybe some tribulus as well. from that same website.

And make sure you take tons of protein while on epistane because your body will be able to utilize more protein.


how old are ya?

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE BIG!!

NASM certified trainer
NFPT certified trainer

Winter Bulk goal:245-250 by dec 31
Current weight: 235

I'm 20.

I know, I'm still under 21, and my body is creating more testosterone then it ever will cause I'm still young.
Been lifting for a little over a year with a clean diet, perfect amount of cals, perfect amount of protein, as well as creatine and all the other supps, but just haven't made significant gains.

I'll look into that stuff, thanks man.

1) dont do the epistane.

2)  change routine and diet with proper recovery periods. thats the best thing i can suggest. eat like a mother and workout like an animal.

3) if u want to do prohormones so early, u better have an open mind on the possible after effects. there are no drugs without side effects thats been manufactured yet. PCT will help if u r really old. but at 20, u r biting the bullet too early.

4) be patient and results will follow. 20 is still very young by BB standards.

Anbe Sivam. Period.

ure going to do what ure going to do but it sounds to me like  ure not doing something right whether it is not eating enough, not working out hard enough etc... why dont you post up your diet on a daily basis and your workout so we can better help you so if even if you choose to take epistane ull acutally get some results out of it...cause if u can barely get results on ure own steroids / desginer steroids / pro hormones arent going to do too much

YOU GOTTA EAT BIG, TO BE BIG!!

NASM certified trainer
NFPT certified trainer

Winter Bulk goal:245-250 by dec 31
Current weight: 235

My diet changes from day to day but,

I currently take SizeOn creatine, MonsterMilk, MuscleMilk, CytoGainer, CytoCarbs.

I take in around 3000-4000 calories per day, as well as around 300g of protein per day.

I worked at McDonalds from the age 13-15, I ate there 3-5 times a day, and didn't gain a lb in the 2 years I worked there, and that ****'s straight fat, my diet now is cleanish.   I also didn't workout when I worked there.

I workout 6 days a week and I see HUGE improvements in strength EVERY week, I just don't get size.