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Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 1:06:02 PM
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xpawel15x
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I'm 15 years old. I just started going to a gym and I've been wondering if you have to eat/drink a supplement when you work out. Can't you just workout and eat normal food like breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper. Wont your body heal and make muscle without the extra protein supplements. And are the supplements healthy? I mean eating natural foods like nuts, eggs, milk, fish I personally think is much healthier than getting protein from protein bars, protein shakes, etc.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 1:17:20 PM
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psalms_soldier
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Protien is protien none is better than the other and yes you can get all your protien from regular food sources but to achieve the desired protien intake for someone looking to gain muscle it's hard because to get that much protien from food you have to take in a whole lot of calories. Yes by the way protien shakes and other supp.s are pretty healthy unless they are abused.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 2:38:51 PM
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danmirage
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Last time I checked, protein supplied 4 calories no matter what the source was.
The shakes can help you to balance out the proportions of protein carbs and fat so you have the amount you need...but you can do that with food too.
At 3000 calories 100% is from whole foods right now, I had to be smart to keep from eating too much protein...and make sure I get enough quality carbs.
I have to watch the fat intake so it does not go over 30%, otherwise my metabolism slows and I start to gain fat. Too little fat and I am not as strong and get hungry hungry hungry.
If I eat too much carb, I get VERY hungry, too little and I lose water...I shrink! I then get cravings for crazy things!!!
Too much protein can dehydrate, slow protein absorption, and cause loss of calcium. Of course too little and I stop recovering and growing!
Eating balanced and healthy...almost never goes wrong...then you can tweek your diet to get even more from it as you learn about the subtle things!
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 3:24:04 PM
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ironraider52
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I've always been told that supps are safe. Its so much easier to take a pill or drink a mix then to eat a whole bunch of stuff.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 3:34:42 PM
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rifleman
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I once heard that everything you need will be in a Pill, like the year 2525
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 9:07:58 PM
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psalms_soldier
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You can get everything you need in a pill now if you really want to dude.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/25/2005 9:12:25 PM
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The Sheep Man
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Dan, I think he meant in order to get equivalent amount of protein you will take in more calories, which is not entirely true, because if your meat is lean, almost all the cals are from protein
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 7:17:00 AM
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BigSwole
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ORIGINAL: psalms_soldier
Protien is protien none is better than the other
Not exacally, Soy is not exacally a good muscle builder, differnt absorbtion time, 4 differnt proteins, whey and egg protein is good for postworkout, where casein is a good nite protein etc.....
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 8:07:42 AM
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"Make no mistake about it, soy protein does not have the nitrogen retaining, anti catabolic, muscle building abilities of proteins such as whey, whole egg, red meat, etc." http://www.muscleblitz.com/soy_protein.htm
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 9:05:32 AM
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I understand where your comming from, and from looking at your pics, I can see that you know a thing or 2 bout bodybuilding, I was just givin my opinion, I think Soy has many great benefits, I just "personally" believe that Whey protein would be more beneficial, than Soy as a post workout protein, to build quality lean muscle.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 9:31:25 AM
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btw, I read some articles about you,and Im very impressed http://www.hardfitness.com/emagazine/issue8/linda.htmlessed, thats a great article, I also suffered from servere allergies, I have to give you a compliment, on the pic, where your twirling your hair, your look like a certified dime piece, btw if you dont mind me asking, whats the tatoo on your right shoulder?
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 9:55:37 AM
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xpawel15x
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Thanks for the help. Now I would like to buy some protein supplement. Like someting to mix with water or milk. And something cheap like up to 20 bucks. It doesnt have to be the best protein but something for a beginner like me. Any ideas? thanks.
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 11:26:40 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: BigSwole
btw, I read some articles about you,and Im very impressed http://www.hardfitness.com/emagazine/issue8/linda.htmlessed, thats a great article, I also suffered from servere allergies, I have to give you a compliment, on the pic, where your twirling your hair, your look like a certified dime piece, btw if you dont mind me asking, whats the tatoo on your right shoulder?
Thank you!
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RE: Do you have to eat or drink a supplement? - 11/26/2005 12:12:07 PM
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danmirage
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xpawel15x
While I am sure the suggestions for that will come in droves...
After considering the contents I want, I shop by serving price. A 20 buck canister that has 10 servings is no match for a 20 buck canister that has 30 servings of what you want.
All servings are not created equal. I decide how much Pro/Carb/Fat I want and decide on a serving for me.
If I say I want 27 grams of protein then...
Designer whey, at $15 for a 2 lb canister says it gives you over 40 scoops of 18 grams of protein 2g carbs and 1.5g fat.
I would need to take 1.5 scoops and this would be 26 servings....0.58 per serving
If I wanted a more balanced meal replacement and wanted 36 g Pro / 46 g Carb / 2g fat
I can combine 1.5 scoops of designer with 1 scoop of this and get what I want:
Universal Gain Fast at 20 bucks for a 5 pound container says it gives you over 50 scoops at 9g protein 43g carbs and .8g fat (scoop cost 0.40 per)
That is a meal replacement drink at under a buck a serving.
I would add flax or omega oils to this because the fat is too low for me...even mixing with milk helps the nutrient profile.
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