Difference between cutting and Bulking

Daniel265

MVP


Behind the neck presses aren't bad for you, behind the neck pulls are though.

They are an unnatural movement and generally wouldn't benefit you the way a conventional OHP would, but I don't see them damaging the RC.

i disagree 100x over

exercises done behind the neck will cause RC injuries. your rotator cuff is not supposed to rotate far enough to take the arms very far behind the head/

putting your RC through a range of motion past what is natural + added resistance from the weight of course is just asking for problems. this can also cause the RC to become inflammed and thus swell to the point where the bone around it can really pinch the muscle. and this will cause pain!!!!

6 months ago I would have agreed with you, but after reviewing this thread a lot of intelligent members (like coldfire) were saying they would not be hard on the RC, a lot of guys with a well valued opinion. http://www.discussbodyb...=behind+the+neck+presses

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behind the neck press gives you no advantage over a press done in front of the body, as well as behind the neck presses have undoubtedly a higher risk for injury

so IMO there is no reason for anyone to do them. the last thing u want to do is injure your rotator cuff. so recommending any exercise that adds added stress to it would be dumb seeing that there are better and safer exercises that could be done.

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bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
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I agree there is no reason to do them (I don't) and agree that conventional OHP is way better, but I still don't believe they would be hard on the RC. Pulls probably, but presses I don't think so.

I still wouldn't recommend anyone to do them.

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Apparently from what I understand people do them to hit the posterior head of the delt more.  But why on earth you wouldn't just do bent over raises or any row instead, I don't know.

I agree. BB rows and bo lateral raises hit the posterior delts harder than any overhead press would.

The primary function of the posterior delts is transverse abduction, or wait is it transverse extension? I'm not sure. I just do both

I'm pretty sure transverse extension is, the primary function of the posterior delts is to hyper-extend the shoulder, so I'm pretty sure it's transverse extension.

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MVP


I agree. BB rows and bo lateral raises hit the posterior delts harder than any overhead press would.

The primary function of the posterior delts is transverse abduction, or wait is it transverse extension? I'm not sure. I just do both

I'm pretty sure transverse extension is, the primary function of the posterior delts is to hyper-extend the shoulder, so I'm pretty sure it's transverse extension.

Test on Wednesday, is it?  Better get that one straightened out!  Good luck on the test!  :)

Thank you sir.

It's transverse abduction.

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Hey guys, I haven't quite followed the program i posted before regularly b/c of the pressure in school.
But my squats went up from 185lbs to 225 lbs :D after just 2-3 days of leg workouts.

One thing, before I used to just do 1 or 2 muscle groups a day and do a lot of exercises on the same muscle.

For example,
Routine 1
Chest
Bench Press- 3 sets
Incline Press- 3 sets
Flyes- 3 sets
incline Flyes- 3 sets
Dips- 3 sets
Triceps
Skullcrushers- 3 sets
Extensions- 3sets
PushDowns- 3 sets

I see a lot of bodybuilders do their workouts in that order

BUT SINCE I CAME TO THIS FORUM, EVERYONE TELLS ME NOT TO DO THAT.

You guys tell me to do something like this, only 1 exercise and 3-4 different muscles in one day.

Routine 2
Squats- 4 sets
Bench Press- 4sets
Military Press- 4 sets
Pullups- 4 sets

I AM STILL confused with why routine 2 is better than routine 1. In routine 1 I emphasize more chest and hit my incline, inner portion by doing flyes, etc

In routine 2, I am doing only 1 exercise and I am doing like 4 different body parts.

Please help me out. If y'all feel like I am stupid or w.e don't comment please.
 



 

Also guys this is the stuff that gets me confused. People here tell me the difference in toning and mass building is basically depends on calorie intake, diet, workout intensity, etc but at the same time other ppl say the difference is ......
http://answers.yahoo.co...id=20070809004942AAsFa2l

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

Muscle toning makes your muscles look long and lean.
Muscle building makes your muscles look bigger.
More weight with less reps = bigger muscles
Less weight with more reps =toned muscles.

2 years ago

Ok so there were like 5 answers and one person chose that one as the best?  The answers all pretty much sucked. 


this one is half way true in that it leaves some things out.  But at least its correct about having more definition by reducing calories.

Simple,

Bulk = Big

Tone = definition

Often people who want to build muscle put on a lot of weight and "bulk up".

Once they have put on alot of weight and increased their sixe alot they then generally want to "get ripped", or increase the tone of their muscles.

They do this by eating less but still doing high intensity workouts. This improves the definition of their muscles so that their skin is now not smooth but ripples showing as much definition of the muscles fibers as possible.

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Seos-Log-2008-m442008.aspx

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Also guys this is the stuff that gets me confused. People here tell me the difference in toning and mass building is basically depends on calorie intake, diet, workout intensity, etc but at the same time other ppl say the difference is ......
http://answers.yahoo.co...id=20070809004942AAsFa2l

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

Muscle toning makes your muscles look long and lean.
Muscle building makes your muscles look bigger.
More weight with less reps = bigger muscles
Less weight with more reps =toned muscles.

2 years ago

Yahoo answers at it's best. High reps don't tone you, that is completely in the diet.

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Alot of the guys who are giving you advice ARE toned and ripped so your best bed would be to try out the routine that they are suggesting you for a while and watch what you are eating, if it works and you like what you see then continue.

 Also about the behind the head presses, would pull ups where you place your head down and try and touch the back of your neck to the bar be bad for your rotator cuffs?