#1 - I didn't even catch that distinction! I always train like a bodybuilder. I am one. Who else would I train like? A tennis pro to get massive quads?
Adding in the "professional" clearly makes sense. I'm not a pro, don't have the time or the willingness to take risks with my health that comes with that level. So I don't want to train like a professional bodybuilder but I do want to train like one.
#2 - A pump doesn't build muscle. While it can deliver more blood to the muscle and maybe more nutrients and all the other stuff you read about, training for a pump is not my objective.
#3 - Training to failure all the time (gotta lift heavy every single set and every workout) is a great way to figure out at just what point that ligament will give away. Everybody has a breaking point. Training heavy and to failure all the time is a quick way to find that one out.
#4 - Tom Venuto's blog uses a combination. I don't find that 30 lb dummbells are heavy. But I've done high volume sets with many reps AFTER leg extensions that make training with light weights and high reps an absolute muscle building activity.
The "myth" as stated didn't quite go along with the text. I read the myth again but it didn't link up for me in the text for #4.
#5 - Not sure what to make of it. Looked at Dan's notes and when I read this again, it's almost like he's saying.. forget the 1x a week per body part.. just train it in lower volumes but more frequently?
Like chest twice per week?
I asked Vince and his reply was:
I was acknowledging/assuming that most people believe the traditional 5 day bodybuilding style workout is the most accepted and effective way to train. And IMO it is clearly not, especially for hardgainers and people with average genetics training drug free.
I think he's saying that if you are a hardgainer or a person of average genetics you want to train MORE frequently but with less overall volume.
If that's the case, I really disagree.
I'm an ectomorph. If I go to the gym MORE often, regardless of how little volume I do and end up training MORE frequently, I end up burning MORE calories and not gaining any muscle.
The 4 Day Split works for me becuase I do not want to train more than once a week for a body part and I don't want to be burning excess calories. I won't be able to make it up in food.
The ONLY time I'd advocate a non-split routine where you train a body part more than once is:
* general health and wellness; full body 3 times a week; nothing spectacular
* beginners who need to develop a mind to muscle link and aren't at the point where they need to split up their routines to stimulate each muscle group
#6 - Seems to be the classic Max-OT thinking. Screw shocking.. you wanna get big? Lift heavy. That's how a muscle grows.
However that only looks at progressive resistance (heavier and heavier) equals more work.
Progressive overload is doing more work than the last time but not necessarily with heavy weights.
Change is good. If all you can change is the amount of weight you lift, go back to #3 and figure out when you are going to get injured.
Your muscles operate on laws of science, not on laws of trickery.
Correct. And science says that if all variables stay the same, you adapt and no changes are made.
Please don't tell me you are going to continually be able to increase the weight?
If that is the case, why am I not benching 897lbs?
Maybe we need to substitute shock/trick with the single work variety.
Your muscle might not need to be shocked but they damn well need variety to grow.
Person A who does all kinds of chest work with machines, free weights, barbells, dumbbells, swiss ball.. etc WILL have a bigger, stronger and more well developed chest than Person B who just does the same thing over and over.
I've watched plenty of videos and Vince Gironda "The Iron Guru" to know that you need to do some variety in order to change.
Simply changing ONE variable - the weight - isn't going to cut it for long.
Let's say you injury your shoulder.
That means that progressive resistance (more weight) is out the window.
Ask yourself.. now what?
You better change some other variables my friend.
<message edited by Marc David on Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:15 PM>