Cutting diet?

Now that I am cutting I am trying to eat better so I am gonna try a keto diet. If I am eating 2500 calories a day I should be at around 150g protein, 30g carbs 190-200g fat? If that's correct what should I be eating? Here is what I was thinking:
Meal 1:Chocolate milk (would this be a no go because of the sugars and insulin thing?) eggs and bacon
Meal 2: Turkey/chicken
Meal 3: Fruit, chicken/Turkey (Pre workout)
Meal 4: chocolate milk, another protein source (post workout)
Meal 5: Likely can't controll this but some type of meat and a vegetable like green beans or something
Meal 6: eggs, meat
 
Not really that complicated, just kinda planning for the summer when I can actually controll my meals, critique how you want, I am just getting used to cutting as I have bulked for like a year now.
 
 

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

I would include complex carbohydrates pre-workout for more gradual glycogen.

I would avoid chocolate milk as much as possible, due to the flavoring and etc.. it's really no different than a Hershey bar.

Meal 6, try to a certain extent to replace something with or include cottage cheese or a casein shake (muscle milk), for a gradual protein release during sleeping to prevent over night catabolism.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

MVP


I would include complex carbohydrates pre-workout for more gradual glycogen.

I would avoid chocolate milk as much as possible, due to the flavoring and etc.. it's really no different than a Hershey bar.

Meal 6, try to a certain extent to replace something with or include cottage cheese or a casein shake (muscle milk), for a gradual protein release during sleeping to prevent over night catabolism.

I believe meat and eggs are also absorbed slowly? I have 9 egg whites before bed, and it does me fine..

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I believe meat and eggs are also absorbed slowly? I have 9 egg whites before bed, and it does me fine..

Casein, I believe cottage cheese is a source of casein but you'd might want to check with that, are very slow releasing proteins. Slower than meat or eggs...

You could eat meat and eggs before bed and wouldn't get "fat" or anything, but muscle milk or cottage cheese would be absorbed much slower.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

MVP


I would include complex carbohydrates pre-workout for more gradual glycogen.

I would avoid chocolate milk as much as possible, due to the flavoring and etc.. it's really no different than a Hershey bar.

Meal 6, try to a certain extent to replace something with or include cottage cheese or a casein shake (muscle milk), for a gradual protein release during sleeping to prevent over night catabolism.

It's not like nequik chocolate milk, it's like actual chocolate milk. Our football coach said it was better than whey..not saying I beleive that but it seems fairly good and I don't have to make it every time. But anytime where it says chocolate milk that might also mean whey. But also I figured the milk could help get some of the healthier fat in. But for preworkout could I do a turkey sandwich? I would be using bread called white wheat, I have looked at the nutrition facts and it is actually healthier than wheat bread, but I like it a bit better. And i'll try to change meal 6.

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

Just eat less than 30g of carbs per day. Don't count post workout carbs into that 30. That would be targeted keto. Cyclic keto would be do less than 30g each day all week and carb up friday evening until saturday night with dietary fat low.

I try not to stress macros and ****. Just eat a lot of fat, protein and green vegetables until you hit your calorie max. Avoid milk, fruit, all that unless it's post work out. Only consume post workout carbs if you are doing the TARGETED ketogenic diet.

Yah Perry I am not gonna be following this exactly, just what I will likely do and change it up but keep the macro's fairly close day to day. I am probably gonna cycle this summer for a month until I am fairly cut again, but am not exactly sure how to cycle. I just wanna keep it simple like I have done with my diet the last 12 months.

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

connelly
It's not like nequik chocolate milk, it's like actual chocolate milk. Our football coach said it was better than whey..not saying I beleive that but it seems fairly good and I don't have to make it every time. But anytime where it says chocolate milk that might also mean whey. But also I figured the milk could help get some of the healthier fat in. But for preworkout could I do a turkey sandwich? I would be using bread called white wheat, I have looked at the nutrition facts and it is actually healthier than wheat bread, but I like it a bit better. And i'll try to change meal 6.

He probably thinks whey is some supplement that will do you harm, I had a lot of people telling me to avoid whey when I was like 16...

Chocolate milk has more sugars, simple carbohydrates and fats with less protein than whey. Whey is definitely better than chocolate milk, especially when you're trying to cut... whey is absorbed quicker and can be taken with whole milk for more calories and a better taste.. although when cutting, I would take it with water...

Turkey sandwich pre-workout is cool, protein before your workout is always a good idea, I use white wheat too... it's cool.. it's not healthier than wheat bread I don't believe... but it's not bad at all.. it's what I use for toast in the morning.....

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

Yah i'm not arguing that it's better than whey, and I have told my mom to stop buying it, but for the next week or so I am gonna have to finish up what we have...I still have some whey around the house, I might go pickup a couple other supplements like multi vitamin, casein, and fish oils, maybe BCAA's even though my current whey already has BCAA's in it..about the white wheat it is obviously gonna vary based on what you compare it to, but atleast to the wheat bread and white wheat bread that was in my house the white wheat was better nutritionaly.

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

All of those supplements you just named is exactly what I would recommend myself...

BCAAs, whey, multi-vitamin, casein, fish oils....

A lot of people prefer bigger multi-vitamins like animal pak, ISS pak, etc..

I prefer just a centrum multi-vitamin, just 1 pill instead of the conventional eleven with animal paks...

The supplements you've named off are exactly what would be necessary.. you're on the right track...

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

If you want to keep it simple i just consume 35 -50 grams of clean carbs whenever i am hungry i dont pay attention to calories just carbs. Usually a sandwich on multi-grain bread with reduced fat cheese and some type of meat on it with cottage cheese.. or rice with chicken mixed in with it, or go lean cereal which has good protein in it, and a couple protein shakes with just water throughout the day i can maintain most muscle this way, and stay pretty lean. Some people may disagree with this but its simple doesn't taste horrible and it works for me.

I wonder how actually we can control what we eat on summer.. but anyway, it's easier if you are the one who shops for grocery cuz you know what you should eat instead of your mom buying it for you.  I though this might be helpful for your grocery shopping, Kraft offers lots of coupons at KraftFood.com/SummerSavings. They also have LF/LC products too.. Enjoy!

are you going for a ckd or a tkd? because if your on the ckd your gonna want to not eat any carbs during the week so your body begins to burn ketones for energy instead of glucose. and your gonna wanna carb up once a week to help fuel your workouts

the ckd works wonders i've dropped like 35lbs easily on it and kept most of my muscle. check out my before and after pictures in my journal. you might seem a little weaker near the end of the week before the carb up but thats pretty much unavoidable

Now that I am cutting I am trying to eat better so I am gonna try a keto diet.

don't you understand that is a contradiction...A keto diet is not one to live on for the rest of your life..(ok some do, I disagree, most strongly... I would back the "hunter gather" diet before Keto, as a way of life ).and it is not going to teach you anything about nutrition acept ot not be afraid of good dietary fats 

now I am doing a CDK, diet, however I have a long history with eating well...

At your present age weight and development, I don't think you should bother with playing nutrition games. It is just not necessary for you... and since you barely into puberty, and growing leaps and bounds, I do not think that restricting a macro nutrient is the way to go for you... I half wonder if all the "stunted growth" tales of young BBer's have anything to do with not consuming enough calories, and extreme diet manipulation, during the biggest growth spurt periods of their lives....

I think you should focus on BASIC ntutrition, if you want to cut a little, for pool season.

Go for a reduced carbohydrates, (but NOT keto), whole grains, ONLY. Unprocessed WHOLE foods ONLY, plenty of vegetables, good protiens and good fats...
wheat bread and white wheat bread that was in my house the white wheat was better nutritionaly.

wheat bread and white wheat bread that was in my house the white wheat was better nutritionaly.

Those are both crap breads... Your falling for marketing.... wheat bread and white wheat bread ...means they are made of flour. Since whole grains are the buzz word right now they change the names to make them sound better for you when I am sure they are both nothing more than a refined processed regular old bleached enriched white flour. Whole wheat is what you look for and even then you need to read lables.... to make sure that they are made completely of whole wheat, or other whole grains.