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Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 11:07 AM
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I just measured my body fat and it's 17%. Quite hight, right? My lower abs are not visible at all and my waist is 32". My weight is 167.5 lbs (76 kg) and my height is 5 11'' (181 cm). So the question is... cut or bulk? And i just bought a weight gainer BSN True-Mass, so i guess I shouldn't have done it.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 11:08 AM
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Might as well bulk since you are light.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 11:15 AM
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Won't it be harder to cut when i get to 20% bf if I bulk now? And if I cut, I'm gonna lose muscles too, right? I'll eat less, consume less calories and in this case will need some protein supplement to get 1 gramm of protein per 1 pound of weight?
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 12:04 PM
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it really depends on how comfortable you are with yourself at that %BF...
Dont ask us, ask yourself.
6'3" @213 Squat 1x20x275 press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385 "The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 12:14 PM
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I'd like to have more visible lower abs. And to gain 15 more lean pounds and to be that way.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 1:07 PM
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17% is already rather chubby. the more fat u have the harder and longer your cutting phase will be
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 9:18 PM
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Elvis1956
Won't it be harder to cut when i get to 20% bf if I bulk now? And if I cut, I'm gonna lose muscles too, right? I'll eat less, consume less calories and in this case will need some protein supplement to get 1 gramm of protein per 1 pound of weight?
.. I would just eat a little over maintenance and eat clean and not worry about it. You will probably gain mostly muscle and a little fat, but the more muscle you have the easier it is to lose fat. It won't be harder to cut if your diet is right. You don't need a protein supplement really. Maybe some whey twice per day just for easy calories and quality protein.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Friday, September 04, 2009 9:46 PM
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Perrynaytor
.. I would just eat a little over maintenance and eat clean and not worry about it.
^ This. IMO eat around maintenance, lift weights, do cardio... You don't really have to choose between a cut or bulk if you're starting out with higher BF levels. You should be able to make good progress in both, at least for a while.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:42 AM
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The problem really is that it's hard to eat low-calorie food that would be rich in protein at the same time. If i just eat a little bit less, consuming, say, 80 gramms of protein a day for my weight, will it be enough to cut fat and sustain my current muscle level? Muscles are 42% of my body.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:54 AM
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Protein is the least calorically dense food, it has 4 calories per gram just like carbs, but your body burns 30% of those calories in the digestion process. If you eat clean and keep the fiber high, from fruits and veggies, the fat should creep off while your overall body composition improves.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:47 AM
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what optimumhealth said eat cleaner and keep lifting and if you do it right you can lose fat and gain muscle im working on that right now cut sodas and that kinda crap out and you should be set i started around 225 ish before i cared and now im 214 and its slow but i can see differences in muscles showing more and less fat on em
219 weight trying to lower 217 now. 2 months later. lol. 250 bench 305 squat 345 deadlift
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:17 PM
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i used to be at around the same bf as you and then i cut down to around 8 or 9 % and i'll just say i'll never let myself get that big again, personally it just feels the best when your that low and you can still rep the weight you did when you were bulking. Like right now im just trying to maintain, but get stronger. so idk how you feel about yourself or how long you've been lifting or anything but i'd say cut
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:07 AM
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i used to be at around the same bf as you and then i cut down to around 8 or 9 % and i'll just say i'll never let myself get that big again, personally it just feels the best when your that low and you can still rep the weight you did when you were bulking. Like right now im just trying to maintain, but get stronger. so idk how you feel about yourself or how long you've been lifting or anything but i'd say cut
If I eat a little bit less and don't take any protein supplements, will I lose muscles?
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:30 PM
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I'd definitely get some whey if i were you. but i mean if you diet right, a little muscle loss is almost inevitable. some people are pro keto and some are against it, but its one of the best diets to help preserve muscle, so i'd look into that and see how you feel about it.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:04 PM
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To be honest, you don't have a lot of muscle mass to preserve, so I wouldn't try to cut hardcore if I were you. You can lose some of that fat while gaining muscle if you eat around maintenance and do resistance training & cardio. Mavric had a pretty good amount of LMM when he cut, and he'd been lifting for quite a while. These are two very different scenarios.
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Re:Cut or bulk at 17% body fat?
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Monday, September 07, 2009 7:29 AM
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Ok, thanks, guys, I'll try eating around maintenance and see what happens, because losing muscles is the last thing I'd want.
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