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Critique - Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:17 PM ( #1 )
I'm new.  New to the forum and partly new to training.
Here's my stats:
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: 20%
Bench Press: 235 lbs.
Military Press: 165lbs.?
ATG Squat: 245lbs.?
 
My current routine which was recomended by a guy I work withs brother who is a personal trainer.
 
Monday - bench press, military press, row
Wednesday - deadlift, pullups, dips
Friday - atg squat, leg press, pistols
 
He said compound movements would get me started off with a good base but once I felt like I had my base going to start doing a bodybuilding routine and I have no idea in hell what that is.
 
So here's what I threw together, please help, I trust you more than me 
 
Monday (Chest)
 
Bench Press: 3 sets of 5
Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8
Decline Bench Press: 3 sets of 10
Ab's
 
Tuesday (Back)
 
Deadlift: 3 sets of 5
Barbell Row: 3 sets of 5
Chins: 3 sets of high reps
Ab's
 
Thursday (Legs and Shoulders)
 
ATG Squat: 3 sets of 5
Military Press: 3 sets of 5
Pistols: 3 sets of 5
Ab's
 
Friday (Arms)
 
Barbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Dumbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 10
Tricep Pressdowns: 3 sets of 10
 
My goal is to of course get big but I kept movements around 5 reps just to get pretty strong as well, so any advice would be helpful from y'all!
 
I want to lose fat around my stomach and add muscle pretty much everywhere else.
 
I'm going to do cardio on off days.  HIIT
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:58 AM ( #2 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

I'm new.  New to the forum and partly new to training.
Here's my stats:
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: 20%
Bench Press: 235 lbs.
Military Press: 165lbs.?
ATG Squat: 245lbs.?

My current routine which was recomended by a guy I work withs brother who is a personal trainer.

Monday - bench press, military press, row
Wednesday - deadlift, pullups, dips
Friday - atg squat, leg press, pistols

He said compound movements would get me started off with a good base but once I felt like I had my base going to start doing a bodybuilding routine and I have no idea in hell what that is.

So here's what I threw together, please help, I trust you more than me 

Monday (Chest)

Bench Press: 3 sets of 5
Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8
Decline Bench Press: 3 sets of 10 do weighted dips leaning forward. way better then decline bench imo. also add a couple sets of flyes to the end. 3-4 sets 8-12 reps. work on ur range of motion with the flyes. get a good stretch. dont use a lot of weight and no range of motion. i see too many people doing this!
Ab's

Tuesday (Back)

Deadlift: 3 sets of 5
Barbell Row: 3 sets of 5
Chins: 3 sets of high reps weighted pullups are going to be better for working ur back
Ab's

Thursday (Legs and Shoulders)

ATG Squat: 3 sets of 5
Military Press: 3 sets of 5
Pistols: 3 sets of 5
Ab's i would also add a few sets of arnolds for the shoulders and maybe some sldl's for the hamstrings. use 25lb plates and get a really good stretch on the hammys

Friday (Arms)

Barbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Dumbell Curls: 3 sets of 10 incline curls
Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 10 skull crushers are better imo
Tricep Pressdowns: 3 sets of 10

My goal is to of course get big but I kept movements around 5 reps just to get pretty strong as well, so any advice would be helpful from y'all!

I want to lose fat around my stomach and add muscle pretty much everywhere else.

I'm going to do cardio on off days.  HIIT

 
i also dont think u need to work ur abs that much. i do them every other day and have gotten great results.
 
and u also mentioned that u wanted to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. that is going to be hard. i recommend u cut the weight off first then u can start a bulk. u will get better results
 
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:15 PM ( #3 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

I'm new.  New to the forum and partly new to training.
Here's my stats:
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: 20%
Bench Press: 235 lbs.
Military Press: 165lbs.?
ATG Squat: 245lbs.?

My current routine which was recomended by a guy I work withs brother who is a personal trainer.

Monday - bench press, military press, row
Wednesday - deadlift, pullups, dips
Friday - atg squat, leg press, pistols

He said compound movements would get me started off with a good base but once I felt like I had my base going to start doing a bodybuilding routine and I have no idea in hell what that is.

So here's what I threw together, please help, I trust you more than me 

Monday (Chest)

Bench Press: 3 sets of 5   This is awesome for strength and size
Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8
Decline Bench Press: 3 sets of 10 I would do dips where you are leaning foward, this will work chest a lot better than decline bench
Ab's

Tuesday (Back)

Deadlift: 3 sets of 5
Barbell Row: 3 sets of 5
Chins: 3 sets of high reps This is good, I would also do pullups too.
Ab's

Thursday (Legs and Shoulders)

ATG Squat: 3 sets of 5
Military Press: 3 sets of 5
Pistols: 3 sets of 5 Not sure what these are
Ab's

Friday (Arms)

Barbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Dumbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 10  Dips are hands-down the best exercise for triceps
Tricep Pressdowns: 3 sets of 10 The 2nd best exercise for triceps are skullcrushers

My goal is to of course get big but I kept movements around 5 reps just to get pretty strong as well, so any advice would be helpful from y'all!  Good idea, you will get plenty of strength and size in that rep range

I want to lose fat around my stomach and add muscle pretty much everywhere else.

I'm going to do cardio on off days.  HIIT


Overall looks like a pretty decent routine. Good luck. One think to remember is that 75% of getting big and strong is your diet. You have to eat a lot to get big. If you're not seeing results then eat more, healthy and plenty of protein of course.
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:16 PM ( #4 )
Thanks.
As far as pullup's go what are the difference between them and chins?  Aren't they the same exercise?
I am working ab's every other day, MWF.
I'm generally small, only my stomach has fat on it so I don't want to cut.
Arnold presses, good exercise.
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:19 PM ( #5 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

Thanks.
As far as pullup's go what are the difference between them and chins?  Aren't they the same exercise?
I am working ab's every other day, MWF.
I'm generally small, only my stomach has fat on it so I don't want to cut.
Arnold presses, good exercise.



Pullups and chinups are different. One your palms are facing you, and the other your palms are facing away.

The fat will go away as you workout, just give it some time.

Arnold presses are great.
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:20 PM ( #6 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

Thanks.
As far as pullup's go what are the difference between them and chins?  Aren't they the same exercise?
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:12 PM ( #7 )
hahah.. oh boy, not the whole "pullups versus chins" topic again.

personally, i enjoy pullups (palms facing away from the body) myself. 
chinups are a great exercise as well, but your palms will be facing you.  it's just a different grip.
IMO... (opinion is the key word here), chinups seem to work the bicep in a greater degree than pullups would.  both are great exercises, and work the back.  can't go wrong with either exercise.

as for the rest of the routine, the other members gave great advice.  i see no need to comment on that... they already said everything i wanted to mention
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:55 PM ( #8 )
Thanks.
 
So my rep range is cool and everything?
 
From my understanding, pullup's work the lats as a main group while working biceps as a secondary, and vice versa with chins?
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:12 PM ( #9 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

Thanks.

So my rep range is cool and everything?

From my understanding, pullup's work the lats as a main group while working biceps as a secondary, and vice versa with chins?


I would say with all of our suggestions your routine will be pretty good. It doesn't matter whats primary or secondary, just do both of them.
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RE: Critique - Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:57 PM ( #10 )

ORIGINAL: Baboon

I'm new.  New to the forum and partly new to training.
Here's my stats:
Weight: 185 lbs.
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: 20%
Bench Press: 235 lbs.
Military Press: 165lbs.?
ATG Squat: 245lbs.?

My current routine which was recomended by a guy I work withs brother who is a personal trainer.

Monday - bench press, military press, row
Wednesday - deadlift, pullups, dips
Friday - atg squat, leg press, pistols

He said compound movements would get me started off with a good base but once I felt like I had my base going to start doing a bodybuilding routine and I have no idea in hell what that is.

So here's what I threw together, please help, I trust you more than me 

Monday (Chest)

Bench Press: 3 sets of 5
Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8
Decline Bench Press: 3 sets of 10 <--i'd change to dips
Ab's <--change ab workouts to monday wednesday and friday for more rest still 3x a week..

Tuesday (Back)

Deadlift: 3 sets of 5
Barbell Row: 3 sets of 5
Chins: 3 sets of high reps <--sounds like you can do alot of these i'd add some weight if your doing more than 12 per set.
Ab's

Thursday (Legs and Shoulders)<-- i'd add another leg exercise since your only going once a week.

ATG Squat: 3 sets of 5
Military Press: 3 sets of 5
Pistols: 3 sets of 5
Ab's

Friday (Arms)

Barbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Dumbell Curls: 3 sets of 10
Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 10
Tricep Pressdowns: 3 sets of 10

My goal is to of course get big but I kept movements around 5 reps just to get pretty strong as well, so any advice would be helpful from y'all!

I want to lose fat around my stomach and add muscle pretty much everywhere else.

I'm going to do cardio on off days.  HIIT

other than what i pointed out i thought it looked pretty good but if your going once a week i'd add more volume tbh. i'd do a chest/tri's back/bi's legs/shoulders split 3 days on 1 off if i was doing a split but thats just me looks good though.
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