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Confused with the concept of muscular failure and force... - 9/22/2007 12:11:17 PM   
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Ok, I'm currently on my 7th week of my Optimum anabolics. Anybody who knows the program knows that it requires each set to be completed with musclar failure. Now, I'm assuming a "forced rep" is when you go pass muscular failure to force out an extra rep. But if you're already hit mucular failure, who can you force out an extra rep?

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RE: Confused with the concept of muscular failure and f... - 9/22/2007 12:33:44 PM   
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you know, I seem to get confused about this also quite often.. A forced rep, is when, although you can't lift the weight on your last rep, someone applies a little bit of extra help, so that you still struggle, but get up the last rep...

Muscle failure, can be defined, as really doing as many reps in a set, to the rep before the one, that if you try it, you need a forced rep behind it.

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RE: Confused with the concept of muscular failure and f... - 9/28/2007 4:43:45 AM   
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you know, I seem to get confused about this also quite often.. A forced rep, is when, although you can't lift the weight on your last rep, someone applies a little bit of extra help, so that you still struggle, but get up the last rep...

Muscle failure, can be defined, as really doing as many reps in a set, to the rep before the one, that if you try it, you need a forced rep behind it.


I think you have the understanding of each concept but not sure you articulated it so it is understandable.

Going to Failure Means: not being able to perform the last rep of a set without assistance. Simply put, not being able to do the rep with proper form or without the aid of a spotter.

A forced rep is basically an assisted rep: Which means, when performing the last rep of a set, you are unable to do it on your own with good form so the rep is forced and completed with the Aid of a spotter or horrible form. which is considered dangerous and not a good way to train. 

I'm not sure if I explained it any better than you did after reading what I just wroteSmile

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RE: Confused with the concept of muscular failure and f... - 10/9/2007 6:50:16 PM   
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thanks for the explanations. it was very helpful.

One more thing, when you're talking about improper form, how improper do you mean? Say if I'm doing front dumbbell raises and I can only lift the weight at about 3/4 of what I should. Is a force rep and muscular failure?

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RE: Confused with the concept of muscular failure and f... - 10/10/2007 6:51:36 AM   
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I personally define (and so do many others) muscular failure as the point at which you can no longer complete a rep in proper form.  For instance, if you are doing standing dumbbell curls, if you have to rock your body to complete the rep, you've reached failure.

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