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RE: Burn the Fat - Friday, January 02, 2004 1:23 PM ( #31 )
Chapter 10


You are what you eat.. literally! It's all about protein in chapter 10. Nitrogen balance, amino acids, sources of complete proteins.. and how often to eat a complete protein meal.

If you are not the same person today as you were a year ago.. cell break down and regeneration.. then you are literally what you eat since your body is being re-built from the foods you consume.

There's a nice segment on essential and non-essential amino acids. Protein quality (complete vs. incomplete) and the major differences.

The always asked "Are protein supplements better then protein foods" is answered in great details. That is worth the price is this book alone since everybody seems to ask that at one time or another.

There's quite a few pages on the RDA vs. the "protein pushers" and how much protein do we need for optimal gains? Calculations and the 1 g of protein per 1 lb of body weight is clearly explained in this chapter.

Chapter 10 is all about protein. And it's a very quick read and easy to understand.
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RE: Burn the Fat - Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:45 PM ( #32 )
YAY!... I am making my way through chapter-three!

Awesome book...
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RE: Burn the Fat - Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:05 PM ( #33 )
I took the hit and got this book. I was in Barnes & Noble and almost got a book that was all about metabolism, how to eat according to your body's metabolism, and how to keep the metabolism up to burn fat. Sounds like this thing is the same concept. I have yet to print it out, but I will soon. I printed the Max-OT at work and had it bound instead of putting it in a binder. But all i paid for was to print it out and bind it. Kinda don't wanna spend any more money on this book (not that it's not worth it).

I'm done with chapter one and I feel more energized about my goals now. My ultimate goal is something that will take many, many, many, many, MANY years to achieve, but I WILL ACHIEVE IT!

The only thing I'm worried about is that he's going to give a list of specific food to eat at each meal. Although this would not be a problem for most people, I have barely enough room to store my 6lb container of protein, let alone meals for a week (which I would have to do for at least one or two of my daily meals). We'll see. Has anyone gotten that far yet?
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RE: Burn the Fat - Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:23 PM ( #34 )
Chill my brother.

I have read 90% of it. I'm a slow reader.. BUT

I can tell you this.. he has a list of foods.. and a great system of combining them.. so you can print that out and put it on the fridge.

It can be very generic

As in

Protein, complex carb, healthy fat

To very specific

Chicken, brown rice, broccoli

The one this this book does.. it gives you all the tools and you can be as specific as you want.

Either follow a meal guide.. or take a list of foods from A-->B-->C and make your own meal plans. That is how flexible it is. And you'll see this at the end. You could just fold up one of the pages that has this guideline on it.. take it to work and when you eat out.. picks food that you know come from each group. It's very specific or very generic. It allows you to choose. And if you need to be told what to eat, there's plans in there. And if you know what you need to eat and just need a reminder, it's there too. Very very flexible. But with details so it's not just wordy and vaporware.

Spend the money on this book dude. College kids spend $60+ per text book that they never look at again. This is $39? You will keep it. And it the concepts won't change as long as you stay human (no 24" guns). It's the cheapest, yet most useful text book.
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RE: Burn the Fat - Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:56 PM ( #35 )
shweet!
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RE: Burn the Fat - Monday, February 16, 2004 7:56 PM ( #36 )
Chapter 11


I never knew so much about carbohydrates until I finished this chapter. Tom goes over simple, complex and fibrous carbohydrates. He goes on for a page about the famous GI (glycemic index) and what it means to the person who's trying to lose weight. We learn about fibrous carbs. And most important, we learn about natural and refined sugars and where to look, how to avoid them and why to avoid them.

It's a very good chapter as with all so far but this one (maybe since I took such a long break from reading) was really interesting. I've found that learning about the various topics of bodybuilding via experience has been a great help. But it took 16 years of training and making mistakes to get here. And I'm nowhere near perfect. BFFM, specially this chapter, taught me more about carbs in an easy to read fashion then...anywhere else. It's just all in this chapter.

There's examples of what things are fibrous, simple and complex in case you were wondering. There's also a good and easy to understand explanation of how something become refined. And where to look on things you buy to see if it's refined and to avoid them if possible.

At the end of this chapter, you will be an expert on carbohydrates. You will know the differences between simple and complex; natural and refined, starchy and fibrous and high GI vs. low GI varieties. You'll even be able to determine how many grams of carbohydrates you need a day and why they are important for your health.

Pretty much everything you wanted and need to know about carbohydrates and bodybuilding.
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RE: Burn the Fat - Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:20 PM ( #37 )
it is all the same as you learn in body-for-live program.

like antony ellis.. also sells a e-book.. he tells that he searched all over the place gathering information here and there.. and made a wonderfull site where to buy his findings..

nothing new.. only all together and a little guidance..

but I admit.. just stick to the program! it's motivating and it works.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:16 PM ( #38 )
Thanks for the review. What is the longest any of you have used this ? What are the real world results not only on muscle size and fat loss but on health perfomance and mental state. Thanks
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Friday, March 19, 2004 12:08 PM ( #39 )
Has anybody read both this and the Anthony Ellis book? If so, which one would you recommend?
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:35 PM ( #40 )

What are the real world results not only on muscle size and fat loss but on health perfomance and mental state.


This BFFM is simply the basics of eating right for life. It's not some fad diet. It's exactly how you should eat every day.

The results would be a maintenance of muscle and the most efficient use of food to boost the metabolism.

Health performance would be optiminal as well as mental state.

Unlike a lot of diets and fads, Tom's book is simply how to eat.. correctly. With the why and how's behind it.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, April 05, 2004 8:30 PM ( #41 )
Since this forum is sponsored by Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle does that give this book extra readability? It sounds like an infomercial to me...
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, April 05, 2004 8:40 PM ( #42 )
Not really. Tom, doesn't actually "give" me anything for the sponsorship.

The definition of sponsored is:


One that finances a project or an event carried out by another person or group, especially a business enterprise that pays for radio or television programming in return for advertising time.


Which now that you mention isn't really true. I receive no finance from Tom to talk about his book. I do get a 50% commission on any book that is sold thru my link but I'm not paid directly by him to sell only this book and hype it up beyond what I personally believe.

The #1 reason that I pimp is so much is that all these beginners who don't know where to get lean proteins from and have no idea what a good metabolism boosting diet is, could benefit from this book in so many ways.

I purchased it. I've been reading it and I've learned a ton from it.

I guess my enthusiasm does sound like an infomercial. But if you don't know the basics of nutrition there's nothing bogus about this 357 page book. Besides the fact that he gives a 90 money back, no questions asked guarantee, how can you lose? You can't.

It gets a lot of readability here because

(1) There's not a lot of eBooks out there on this that talk to a person as a beginner
(2) It's not $500
(3) It's one of the first nutrition eBooks I read and I just loved it. It's really very useful as a reference.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:07 AM ( #43 )
I don't know, I think I could pimp almost anything that gives me a 50% commission...
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:29 AM ( #44 )
True.

I'm running a business here. Hence I wrote my own e-book. So profit has a place on this forum. I also give away a lot of my time answering questions to the best of my ability for free.

I could as you suggest.. pimp anything for 50%.. but

(1) If it sucked there would be a lot of returns
(2) People would post saying how awful that book was
(3) Credibility would be damaged

While I "could" do that.. I'd also ruin any credibility I might have about recommending good products to beginners. If I just take some book and sell it and people think it sucks, they are less likely to believe me in the future as a good source of information. Not to mention there would be many many returns (thus I make nothing) and there would be posts with opinions that differ from mine.

I only recommend products that honestly can help people out here who need way more help and consolidated information in one place.

And I'm pretty good about telling people if I've read the book or not and how I feel about it.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Tuesday, May 04, 2004 4:40 PM ( #45 )

"How to Measure Your Body Fat in The Privacy of Your Own Home."
That's some good stuff right there. I got it because I already have BFFM. Great advice on how to do it fairly easily.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, May 10, 2004 8:19 AM ( #46 )
how does post workout nutriton work into this diet? i didnt read anything about sugar and protein shakes after working out...
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, February 07, 2005 11:01 AM ( #47 )
So this is no workout, just nutrition? I can read this and follow it, and still follow MAXOT, correct?
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, February 07, 2005 11:27 AM ( #48 )
It does have a little bit of a workout but nothing like Max-OT, AtoZ Fitness or Optimum Anabolics. Those are full featured training programs. BFFM is more about nutrition.

You can read BFFM, and apply it to every single program you'll ever find. It is basic nutrition as well as how to eat fundamentals. It applies to every program out there.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:26 AM ( #49 )
Can this book work if I am only doing 45 min of working out 6x weekly various cardio/core strength aerobics? OR do I have to weight train? Do you need more specifics? I am stuck, I lose 2 gain 2. HELP


ORIGINAL: mda1125

It does have a little bit of a workout but nothing like Max-OT, AtoZ Fitness or Optimum Anabolics. Those are full featured training programs. BFFM is more about nutrition.

You can read BFFM, and apply it to every single program you'll ever find. It is basic nutrition as well as how to eat fundamentals. It applies to every program out there.

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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:09 PM ( #50 )
wow, i think i might get this book

i was debating this or skip la cours, but i really need to get my nutrition up to speed
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:03 PM ( #51 )
so I printed out the whole thing....oh jesus, its a monster

i am going to start reading it first thing tomorrow

hopefully its worth all that ink
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Friday, February 11, 2005 11:48 AM ( #52 )

ORIGINAL: 4nzikgrl

Can this book work if I am only doing 45 min of working out 6x weekly various cardio/core strength aerobics? OR do I have to weight train? Do you need more specifics? I am stuck, I lose 2 gain 2. HELP


Hey there, buying BTFFTM last November basically changed everything around my eating and my training and my weight loss and my goals. It's very readable and has essential information about goal setting (which I believe is essential for long-term meaningful maintenance), diets, nutrition, fat loss vs weight loss, training.

I recommend it all the time now and I don't get anything for that from Tom LOL!! I just know it helped me understand lots of stuff that I didn't know before and I then re-committed over summer to my training.

One thing Tom recommends which I have pushed my personal trainer into doing is fortnightly weight and body fat measurements. Tom is very strong around knowing what is happening with your body and if you are getting results you want. If not, you change something and if you are going in the right direction, then keep on doing what you are doing. Without this constant measurement (which I was a bit resistant to at first because I didn't want to obsess about the numbers in my head and had a history of number-obsession) I wouldn't know about my success and this is very motivating every second Monday.

So read it, absorb it, take and use what you like, leave the rest (mostly I left the training stuff because I have a PT who directs me). And let us know.

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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:40 PM ( #53 )
I just picked up my copy of BFFM from Kinko's this afternoon... I am on Chapter 4 and I am just enthralled in it... I have been doing BFL challenges which I start week 12 on Monday and then I will be taking a week off and getting things ready for a BFFM format... I am pumped!!! Thanks for this thread... I fully agree about the wonderful e-book that it is!

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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Monday, March 07, 2005 11:15 AM ( #54 )
Just finished reading it (I actually got it because of the review on this forum!).

Overall a really good book. I don't have much to add since mda1125 did such a wonderful job.

Like other's have said, this information is already out there, Tom Venuto just did a good job of putting it together.

If you want to save some money take a look at Dr. John Berardi's articles (http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/index.htm)

He has some of the same info contained in this book (e.g. A calorie is not a calorie, and the P+F / P+C food combinations). The info here isn't as detailed as the book so I would still recommend getting it.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Friday, April 01, 2005 5:48 AM ( #55 )
I bought this book also... found it extremely helpful although the lifestyle change was quite a challenge...

Eating every three hours... someone asked about when a person should workout when they are doing this system... I asked Tom the same question in an email... if I recall, it wasn't so much about when in terms of spacing it around meals... He suggested some are able to wrokout an hour after a meal, some two hours, but he did suggest lean protein in the meal following.

I have gone through two sites, basically for advice on this topic... This book has a lot of reasoning behind the practices that we have heard a lot about. His discussion about carbs is extrememly valuable. So is his advice on supplemental workout foods and liquid calories. These were things I had not considered to be factor in body metabolism.

Even in eating natural foods, I find that I am able to select better foods from these already great food groups to get the kinds of results I am looking for.

As I said, it is a hard thing to get used to - eating every three hours 5-6 times... but as a friend of mine from weight watchers said, when I told hi about this program - 'every three hours... that's what my baby daughter does!'...

Buy this book if for no other reason than to gain a real understanding of many of the common dietary programs out there and gain some insight as to why you may have gotten SOME results from other programs, but not the kind of performance results you were looking for... In many ways not knowing the logic behind the lifestyle sabotages the best efforts to have a healthier body...

JG
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Friday, April 01, 2005 12:11 PM ( #56 )

In many ways not knowing the logic behind the lifestyle sabotages the best efforts to have a healthier body...


Brilliant! That is a great way to look at it.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:45 PM ( #57 )
thanks to everbody for the info, ive been holding off on buying this book but im definitely getting it now.
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle - Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:23 PM ( #58 )
I just got this e-book yesterday and am so excited. I read 50 pages last night and I cannot wait to read more tonight..
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RE: Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle -The Review - Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:47 PM ( #59 )
I'm confused about whether carrots and peas are starchy or fibrous carbohydrates.  In chapter 14 of "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle" Tom Venuto lists carrots as starchy and peas as fibrous.  Then in the appendix he lists peas as starchy and carrots as fibrous.

Which is correct?  I'd hate to have my menu messed up because of a misprint.  Also, is squash starchy or fibrous?

I've tried finding a correct list of starchy and fibrous carbohydrates online but each list seems to contradict the other list.  Maybe you guys can help me out.  Does anyone have a complete and reliable list of starchy and fibrous carbohydrates? 

I found the following information which seems to point to carrots being fibrous, peas being fibrous, summer squash being fibrous, and winter squash being starchy:1 c carrot: 3.7 g fiber, 0.7 g starch

1 c peas: 9 g fiber, 7 g starch

1 c summer squash: 2.5 g fiber, 1.5 g starch

1 c winter squash: 5.7 g fiber, 8 g starch

I wholly recommend Tom Venuto's ebook by the way.  Great information throughout the whole book.
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RE: Burn the Fat - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:08 AM ( #60 )
The great thing about this ebook is that it doesnt tell you anything new but tells it in a new way.
 
Most of the stuff you know but you dont know why or the details.
It explains everything in a clear concise way.
I am at chapter 15 and i feel like it has changed the way i see food.
 
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