Big problem using M-Drol - Much Low Testosterone Levels!

Hello guys, i'm speaking from Brazil, here a little people use supplements like Pro Hormonals or others expensive imported supplements, and I gone here to get more information about my problem with this cycle.

My testosterone (total/serum) levels normally is about of 400 ~ 500 ng/dL.

I did a common cycle of M-Drol using 1 caps on 1/2 weeks and 2 caps on 3/4 weeks, and for my surprise my testosterone levels at final it was about 20 ~ 30 ng/dL.

Well, for your concern in the same time i begin the cycle, i begin use Isotretinoin (popular name Roaccutane)... and my TGP levels was so strong in that medical examination (About 81 UL)... and then my dermatologist (skin medical - i don't succeeded translation) recommends me stop all supplement and get a new exammination in one week (I don't do PCT). Altought TGP and TGO levels was returned to normal levels, my testosterone still low levels. My gains at cycle stay on.

In two exammination (different labs) there are:
First: 31 ng/dL
Second: 19 ng/dL

Anyone can give me a solution? It's will be a good option use Novedex and Tribullus (most acessible for us) right now? (1,5 weeks after final using M-Drol)

Have a good day
Best regards

you need NOLVADEX (notice the L in it not novadex xt) or CLOMID, mdrol shuts you down super hard. and you need to run it atleast for 4 weeks...

otherwise you may be ****ed... this is why you research lots of stuff before touching stuff like that.

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(I don't do PCT).

maciel


(I don't do PCT).

Thats your problem.
Without proper PCT and cycle support, you'll definitely deplete your test levels.

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

This is why I hate the way supplement companies are presenting their PH/AAS products.   M-drol is a steroid and it is being sold like any other supplement out there.  This should be for experienced users.

Clomid is the way to go something like 100/100/50/50 should start you back up.

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

No PCT? Dude. Tell the doc to write a script for what AdamScott suggested.

Isn't M-Drol a SD clone? I've heard it's good but hella hepatoxic and shuts down everything.

Which i use? clomid (clomifen) or tamox (tamoxifen)?

Just get Clomid and do the 100/100/50/50 cycle AdamScott suggested.

Possibly invest in a testosterone booster as well?

Perrynaytor


No PCT? Dude. Tell the doc to write a script for what AdamScott suggested.

Isn't M-Drol a SD clone? I've heard it's good but hella hepatoxic and shuts down everything.

Yeah your cholesteral (sp?) is probably through the roof,your liver has surely been damaged and your test levelsas you already know....are screwed.
Do the clomid like AdamScott said.....

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

Bulkingup, what kind of gains did you get on your m-drol/p-plex bridge? Bad sides? I know you ran supports for sure.

Perrynaytor


Bulkingup, what kind of gains did you get on your m-drol/p-plex bridge? Bad sides? I know you ran supports for sure.

To be honest....I didn't like it much.....I'd rather do a single cycle of each.
PPLEX is a wet PH...I gained like 10-12 pounds in 3 weeks......HOWEVER
MDROL is very dry....So I came back at only 3 pounds over what I started out with....Only alot more ripped....Seemed like a waste to bridge such different PH's.

Current Stack: HDROL,Celltech,Superpump 250, Glutamine,Beta alanine,Whey protein.

bulkingup

Perrynaytor


Bulkingup, what kind of gains did you get on your m-drol/p-plex bridge? Bad sides? I know you ran supports for sure.

To be honest....I didn't like it much.....I'd rather do a single cycle of each.
PPLEX is a wet PH...I gained like 10-12 pounds in 3 weeks......HOWEVER
MDROL is very dry....So I came back at only 3 pounds over what I started out with....Only alot more ripped....Seemed like a waste to bridge such different PH's.

i did not like the bridge either.  much better gains running it on a single cycle.   i like the dry "rock solid" gains over the pplex personally. 
 
and to what the OP is asking about my advice is exactly what bulking,chalky,creation and adamscott said. 

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my PCT cycle (days unit):
1-5 100 mg indux (clomid)
6-10 50 mg indux (clomid)
1-10 40 mg tamox
11-20 30 mg tamox
21-30 10mg tamox
1-30 1g Tribullus Terrestris 50% Saponin

I begin today

You might want to run an AI weeks 3 to 6 as you'll get a bit of an estrogen rebound. Something like 6-oxo would suffice.

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

How old are you? Tell me your over 21...please!

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what is 6-oxo and AI ? How works? How much ?

The problem is about I living in Brazil, and I need to import these products, and stays a long time to arrive...

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6-oxo is an OTC aromatase inhibitor (stops testosterone converting to estrogen). The idea is that when you taper off the serm the estrogen level will rebound so you are at possible ( I stress possible) risk of gyno. If you really wanted to go fancy you could buy the prescriptions, something like letrozole or arimidex but they cost $$$.  Run your AI from weeks 3 to 6 starting high and tapering off so the estrogen level will gradually return back to normal.

''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.''

Erich Fromm

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How old are you? Tell me your over 21...please!

he is as old as my bro. 21. 2 yrs younger to me and the guy is running all mumbo jumbo chemical wizardry inside his body!

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