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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:17 PM
My time relased Beta-Alanine should be here tomorrow.  I'm going to supplement it with creatine.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:47 PM
Keep a log of performance including perceived exertion and time to completion...
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Sunday, April 01, 2007 5:57 PM
Good deal, I'm wanting to start a stack with creatine, NO, and the Beta-Alanine. Looking forward to it's review.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:34 PM

Good deal, I'm wanting to start a stack with creatine, NO...

Do you take this pre workout? (1-hour)
If so do you also get Essentail Amino Acids Pre-workout?
 
Why?  Because there is a bit of research that shows there is a benefit to getting EAAs after the NO because it increases the circualtion and uptake...
 
You should be getting Essential aminos before you train anyway...but there is another reason!

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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, April 02, 2007 12:22 PM
I've never used NO before, only creatine and Whey. Wanting to try something new. Duely noted on the EAA, but I do have some questions.

You say to take it pre and post.
 
Immediately before training?
 
Post being 1 hour post WITH the NO? Taking it directly with the NO, few minutes after, does that even matter? 
 
What exactly are the EAA's? Is it just a pill form suppliment I would be taking? Where's a good place to buy these from? Internet I'm guessing. 
 
I haven't bought anything for this stack yet, so far I've just been putting together prospects for the new stack, and sticking to my Multi, fish oil, and Whey for the time being.

Definately appreciate the tips.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, April 02, 2007 3:05 PM
OK. 

EAA = Essential Amino Acids.
They are in Whey.  At this time I do not see a product that I could recommend that is not loaded with crap or overpriced.

Creating could only be taken an hour before you train.
L-Arganine would ideally be taken before bed, but certainly not anywhere near training (while it has benefits taken alone, it has been shown to lower the desireable hormonal response to training when taken near training) and you should avoid NO products with stimulants.

Whey you would take 30 minutes before you train and immediatly after you cool down.

If you are looking for optimal anabolic response, then consider getting carbs both 30 minutes pre and immediatly post workout with th whey as well.

Roughly (both pre and post)
0.2 grams of carbs per pound of bodyweight
0.1 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight

You could sip or take BCAA during the workout if you want even more kick.  About 3-5 grams (1 tsp.)
For even more anti-catabolism you want a diluted glucose drink (1:8 or about 12% by volume such as 25 grams of glucose in 8 ounces of water) with perhaps some BCAAs (~3-5 grams) in it.

If you are sensative to carbs/sugars, then pay slose attention to your response to the carbs...reduce or drop if necessary.

Beta Alanine you take in devided doses to maintain carnosine levels in muscle.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, June 25, 2007 2:14 PM
3x1G or 6x1G should be fine.
 
Make sure that your diet and training are on target FIRST.
 
Make sure that all other strategies are already optimized and stabilized FIRST.
 
Research so far suggest that maximal increases in carnosine happen within 4 weeks with about 6 g per day, or 40 to 60 mg per kg of body weight. After that, it appears you could cut the dose in half to maintain your elevated carnosine levels.
 
Make sure you keep detailed records of growth, strength, power, focus, energy, recovery, etc.
 
It appears anecdotally, that if you stop supplementing, your carnosine levels will return to baseline in about 6 weeks.
 
As with creatine, there has been no reported physiological resistance so cycling is not indicated. 
However, when you take your normal 10+- days vacation from training, you can stop supplementing if you want.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:29 PM
Dont mean to bump this old thread, Havent been here for quite sometime.
But I am stacking beta alanine with creatine monohydrate + my super secret stack (legal).
Looking to compete in 08,
I will post results here of beta alanine since I cant find to much but a few research studies and articles in a few mags
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:50 PM
The trouble there Kane is that you are starting CM and the "super secret stack" and have no baseline.  Results of beta-alanine would be hard to attribute to just BA.
 
So, really, you should just start a new thread in the Journal section telling us your goals, what you are doing and showing your results... so we can watch your progress!!
 
Looking forward to your progress toward competition!
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:13 PM
dan i was wondering if you could tell me anything about citrulline malate and if it is as useful or close to as useful as creatine and beta alanine which both seem to be great supplements.  
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:31 PM

dan i was wondering if you could tell me anything about citrulline malate and if it is as useful or close to as useful as creatine and beta alanine which both seem to be great supplements.

 
Simply Citrulline is an antioxidant adn extends the NO promoting effects of Arganine adn the whole cascade that results. 
 
As for a comparison with creatine and Beta-alanine: You personally do not notice the results of Citrulline/arganine and they go on without supplementation.  Supplementation simply augments dietary sources and optimizes saturation of the pathways.  But the measureable effects are at the plasma level and the resulting benefits are not easy to measure as a normal athlete unless you compare 6 months of training with it and 6 monthe without it.  So C & A are useful.  If I listed supplements in order of inclusion in a regimen, they would be close to the top, but CM would be higher and if your training is intense and you are pushing the edge of the envelope BA would be there as well.
 
With CM and BA you FEEL and SEE a difference.
 
 
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, January 14, 2008 4:48 PM
by CM u mean creatine mono or citrullin malate?
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, January 14, 2008 5:50 PM
i saw the beta-alanine supplement on t-nation but i didnt really know what it was. thanx for clearin it up for me. and now that i understand it. this sounds like a vicious supplement. i hear some platues being broken as i type...
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Monday, January 14, 2008 6:25 PM

by CM u mean creatine mono or citrullin malate?

 
Sorry I meant With Creatine Monohydrate and Beta-Alanine you FEEL and SEE a difference.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance - Friday, January 18, 2008 4:28 AM
Is 1.7 g of BA going to do anything beneficial? Thats how much is in my pre workout supplement (White Flood) and I only take it on training days (3x/wk.)
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