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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Friday, January 18, 2008 7:21 AM
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1.7g is below the effective dose. Read the first page of this thread about the effective dose and timing. That also has Arganine in a less than optimal dose. You should not be taking Arganine anywhere near your training time.
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Friday, January 18, 2008 12:36 PM
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hmm okay. whats your take on Animal Pump?
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Friday, January 18, 2008 12:48 PM
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Lets not go through all the magic elixers. You don't even know how much of any ingredient is in it! Too many artificial ingredients for me to even say it is ok. Again: You should NOT be taking Arganine anywhere near your training time. But as a training aid...you should have looked at the ingredients and noted these things for yourself... The creatine is below the optimal dose! (1.25g per 40 pounds) The Arganine is below the optimal dose! (4-6 grams minimum) You don't want all those adrenalin stimulants, especially if you are bulking. Pepper, Cinnamon and the antioxidants are fine fluff items to add, but neither here nor there. Amount Per Serving % DV Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 60mg 100% Selenium(as Sodium Selenate) 100mcg 143% Foundational Creatine Matrix 3000mg Magnesium Creatine Chelate™ (MCC) * Tricreatine Malate (TCM) * Creatine Ethyl Ester (CEE) * NO Blast Complex 2000mg Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (Arginine-AKG) * Ornithine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (Ornithine-AKG) * Citrulline Malate * L-Carnosine * L-Norvaline * Energy Rush Complex** 500mg Methylxanthine Complex (Caffeine, Theobromine Theophylline) * Evodiamine * Vinpocetine * Antioxidant Complex 700mg Grapeseed Extract (Standardized For 95% OPC) * N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) * Green Tea Extract (Standardized For 60% EGCG) * K-R Alpha Lipoic Acid (K-R ALA) * Pump Transport Complex 1000mg Taurine * Ginger Root Extract (Gingerols, Shaogols) * Cinnulin PF™ * Bioperine® (Piper Nigrum Extract Standardized For A Minimum Of 95% Piperine Alkaloids) Methylxanthine Complex (50% Kola Nut Extract And 22% Guarana Extract), Cinnamon Root Extract, Evodiae Fructus Extract, Fenugreek Extract, Vinca Minor L. Extract, Gelatin, Di-Calcium Phosphate, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Titanium Dioxide, Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate, FD&C Yellow #5, FD&C Yellow #6, FD&C Red #40, FD&C Blue #1
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Friday, January 18, 2008 3:28 PM
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Noted. Thanks for the advice Dan, as always!
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Monday, January 21, 2008 7:23 PM
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:40 PM
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im going to buy BA at this new store i found because it is alot cheaper than gnc. I just have a few questions itd be really helpful if you could answer first the powder is the cheapest and probably least convenient. I was gonna buy this buy the guy recommended the BA infusion which was a liquid form of it that he says is waaaay more effective. He told me about people trying it and saying about its great effects and the feeling they get after taking it, a tingly type feeling that i understand you can get from taking BA. He explained as a pre workout supplement that you only take maybe a gram on training days. From everything else ive heard, BA is to be taken everyday 4-6 grams to be most effective. My first question is: is the liquid really more effective? If so is it worth paying the extra because it costs alot more when i calculate what im paying a day for it. 2nd: BA is not a preworkout supp from what i hear, its like creatine, you should take it preworkout but your also supposed to take it at other times of the day are you not? And you should be getting more than 1g on just lifting days. and 3rd: there is a tiny bit of histidine in the product the ratio of BA to histidine is like 18:2 ish but not exactly. He says this is the perfect ratio of the two to support carnosine levels. I read somewhere else that you dont need any histidine because the limiting factor in carnosine levels is only the BA. It is only a small amount of histidine though so this question isnt as important im just wondering...
<message edited by RollingStone on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:43 PM>
working on explosive phase vertical: 35 weight: 206 Big 3: 300/440/515 Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.
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Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58 PM
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First, read this entire thread from the beginning, you will find I discuss dosage, timing and the tingly effect. Also Histadine and that question. Third...no the liquid is not more effective.
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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:14 AM
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alright thanks i was pretty sure of the answers already just needed to make sure because the guy kind of made me feel stupid when i argued with him even though i was right.
working on explosive phase vertical: 35 weight: 206 Big 3: 300/440/515 Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.
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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:40 AM
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If he can produce or refer us to published, peer reviewed studies from a creditable source that compare same dosage and consistency of powder with liquid and demonstrate that there is a replicable and statistically significant difference...that is great, I want to see it,...if this is his testosterone and need to be right talking (and it usually is)...well I am happy he has high test levels...but please state your personal opinions as opinions. Not "fact."
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RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:34 PM
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The studies were done on people like us who train regularly. 1 pound is not a lot of muscle to expect to put on. For someone at the very top of their game and at the top of a bulk I might not agree with that, but for most of us, I can say that 1 pount of muscle gained is not difficult. I give dose information... More research has been coming out showing the benefits. Nothing to refute it that I know of.
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Re: RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Monday, November 24, 2008 2:30 PM
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paraesthesia I always get this when I take it ; I'm scratching my face.
''If one is after quick results one never learns an art.'' Erich Fromm
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Re: RE: Beta-Alanine creates new frontier in sports performance
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Monday, November 24, 2008 7:12 PM
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Note that I do give a dose methodology for avoiding this.
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