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Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lifetime - 8/18/2006 10:24:28 PM
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danmirage
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I want to note that research on Girls and women demonstrates they will experience the same results!
Sustained Benefits from Previous Physical Activity on Bone Mineral Density in Males
Anna Nordström, Tommy Olsson and Peter Nordström
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/91/7/2600
Men who participate in athletic sports in their late teens gain stronger bones, a benefit that can persist long after they stop exercising intensively. This is because exercise has the greatest effect on bone mineral density during childhood and puberty.
Researchers tracked the bone health of 63 athletes and 27 non-athletes, from when they were an average age of 17 until they were an average age of 25.
The athletic group, composed of hockey and badminton players, actively trained for nine hours every week, and had generally been doing so for about a decade. Their workouts included weight training, playing soccer and long-distance running.
Over the course of the study, 40 athletes stopped their training and, consequently, their average bone mineral density (BMD) fell dramatically.
Nevertheless, the group that was athletically active at the outset of the study had better BMD numbers -- no matter if they continued exercising or didn't -- than the non-athletic group, particularly in their hips, where debilitating fractures often occur.
The researchers estimated that the young athletes cut their risk of future fractures in half by being active.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/19/2006 1:11:33 PM
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That's good to hear, But aren't we still more likely to have problems such as arthritis and knees that make cracking noises.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/19/2006 9:43:46 PM
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danmirage
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But aren't we still more likely to have problems such as arthritis and knees that make cracking noises.
Only if you under-nourish, over-train, train unsafely and ..well follow the rule you posted "If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right"
I am afraid I don't agree with that. While it is a very macho saying..it is not likely to be the safest practice!
Proper lifting can be joyfully easy. There is some pain...but that feels good!
I started training before I was 8. I have trained over 25 years. Powerlifting, bodybuilding, running, walking, hiking, arm wrestling...
The majority of my injuries came from non-sports related incidents...and even those are healed up.
The few lifting related injuries I have ever suffered resulted from stupid, ego-driven training. I healed all those up.
Over the years, there can be wear and tear...but at 40 you don't train the way you do at 20, and at 50 you train differently, and at 60, and 70...Some of my clients are in their 70s...they do fine.
If you take care not to strain and tear at your ligaments and tendons...then you won't have much of that popping.
Commonly, arthritis...is not caused from lifting. If you eat poorly and poison yourself regularly with poor food choices, if you are exposed to many environmental toxins and if you continue to expose yourself to things you are allergic too...then you can expect arthritis. 
Train smart, eat smart..live well and enjoy it for a long time!
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/19/2006 11:18:51 PM
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That saying isn't so much for lifting. More towards sports, I was brought up the traditional way instead of the modern way with sports. Which is more push yourself until you throw up and the go some more. I recently started kickboxing, and it is the way I like it to be in such good shape that I'm still breathing with my mouth shut chest hardly moving when he's ready to quit.
I lift lighter weight(all about form)
I didn't actually know that diet had anything to do with arthritis. I figured it came from running to much and wearing down the cartiledge. So I'm guessing that eating right helps slow or prevent this.
I do put my body through more than it's supposed to go trhough and "overtrain" I can still mesure monthly.
Another question, If I keep beating up my body and eating good will I come out somewhere in the middle of good joints and horrible arthritis? Incase it's genetic nobdy in my family has it.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/20/2006 9:20:50 AM
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I've never actually had a serious problem, but if I do and let it heal up it won't give me problems if I give it enough time?
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/20/2006 9:42:57 AM
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Some injuries heal very slowly...so you get what appears to be full use back before there is full recouperation..and the likelihood for re-injury is there.
Some injuries are persistant...I suffered severed muscles in my upper and lower back..without surgery at the time...those will never heal.
Some injuries deposit "scar" tissue in the surrounding tissues...this can make things messy for recouperation...but since you can not see it..you only know because of a "nagging" injury. Those are worth seeing a sports physician about...not a normal doctor but one who specializes in treating athletes.
There are many types of injuries that you never get bothered by again.
Repetitive strains and sprains require special long term attention so that they do heal.
Bruises and the like are mostly just quick heals.
Jarring injuries should be dealt with like a serious strain.
Minor strains should be dealt with as if they are major.
Anything that seems like nothing but persists should be seen to by a professional.
Use ICE, wraps, other forms of compression, elevation, adequate rests and recuperative nutrition, heat should always be followed by ice, proper warm ups and cool downs, preventative movement...use nutrition, herbs, and any healthy tool available for recuperation.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/20/2006 11:44:14 AM
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I've always warmed up, but I never understood the point of a cooldown. It seems like warming up again for nothing.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/20/2006 12:06:26 PM
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I could parade a list of reasons but I will stick with just a few...
When you arm up you prepare the nervous system for the training...value? Your training efforts are more effective. Really!
Cooling down, you prepare the nervous system for recovery and let it down from the training buzz....value? Better recovery. Yup. You relax and start the recovery process faster and more effectively.
Now lets look at a physical reason...while you train you are causing lots of waste byproducts to form in the body....when you stop cold...they just sit there where they are...if you cool down..you flush out the body with fresh oxygenated and nutrient rich blood.
Nearly the most important thing is you avoid blood pooling! Imagine a moment when your heart is pounding and sending lots of blood into the muscles to meet the demand for oxygen etc...then you suddenly stop training and get in your car? What happens to all that blood? Well it just hangs out there. This is referred to as Blood Pooling and it potentially fatal. It can happen to anyone. It is common enough.
Compelling enough? Really 3-5 minutes to lower your core temp and send fresh blood throughout the body...its worth the time.
In a cool-down you reverse the warm up..you gradually lower the heart-rate and core body temp.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/20/2006 2:59:09 PM
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Ok, that makes it actually worth the time.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/26/2006 6:30:15 AM
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in responce to your reacerch, would bodybuilding be concidered as one of the activities that increace your BMD, i'm very intrested in this becasue i was in football and track since i was 15 but i've stoped this year to focus on my weightlifting which is more important.
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RE: Athletic Training When Young Builds Bones For a Lif... - 8/26/2006 11:46:55 AM
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say i had been doing the bench press, after i was finished would just pushing the bar only be helping cooldown
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