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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:09 PM
Hate to rez an old thread, but...


Have 1 question on the Anabolic diet (or any modern keto diet) - what's the point of the 1 day a week where you eat a lot of carbs (or at least much more than your daily usual) - doesn't this knock your body out of it's Ketosis state that you've worked to achieve all week long?  Isn't keeping yourself in a state of light Ketosis one of the main points of all of these diets?  This 1 day seems counterintuitive to the whole diet sorta...  can anyone explain?
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:24 PM

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Hate to rez an old thread, but...


Have 1 question on the Anabolic diet (or any modern keto diet) - what's the point of the 1 day a week where you eat a lot of carbs (or at least much more than your daily usual) - doesn't this knock your body out of it's Ketosis state that you've worked to achieve all week long?  Isn't keeping yourself in a state of light Ketosis one of the main points of all of these diets?  This 1 day seems counterintuitive to the whole diet sorta...  can anyone explain?


during a keto diet you need some carbs if you want to perform high intensity exercise (weight training, intervals, etc..) because they need glycogen stores. in order to do this you can either a. have carbs around your workout like a tkd (targeted keto diet) or b. have them all in one day/a few meals like in a ckd (cyclical keto diet)
glycogen can be restored to some degree on it's own but considering muscles during keto hold about 70mmol/kg and only about 2-4mmol/kg are restored it's not very significant. by refilling glycogen stores you can perform high intensity exercise without over working your body. how large that carb up depends on the person. i disagree with the whole weekend huge carb up, thats pointless IMO and it takes you 2-3 days to get back into ketosis. i would start with 1 day or a tkd.
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:37 PM
I've done Atkins in the years past and it has always worked amazingly well for me (lost 60 lbs in 10 weeks and even gained a little muscle).  I know a lot of you guys use a TKD to gain...  but I need to lose a lot of body fat.  Would a TKD do me well, or is there something better for rapid weight loss?
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:41 PM

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I've done Atkins in the years past and it has always worked amazingly well for me (lost 60 lbs in 10 weeks and even gained a little muscle).  I know a lot of you guys use a TKD to gain...  but I need to lose a lot of body fat.  Would a TKD do me well, or is there something better for rapid weight loss?


how do you know you gained muscle in that time? theres no way you lost 60lb. of fat in 10 weeks
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:51 PM
Well, I did weight about 380 at the time (im 6'4") - but im sure a lot was water weight as well... and i know this is anecdotal evidence at best, but my lifting capabilities went up substantially as well... so I figured I was at least not losing muscle mass


but regardless of whether I gained muscle or not, I lost 60 lbs in 10 weeks, and I'd like to repeat it
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:13 PM
were you new to lifting? that would explain a lot of it but still...

i'm not sure how much u weight now but most likely losing that much weight wont happen again and if it does it wont be healthy for u
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:16 PM
sadly, i actually weigh even more than that now...  and yes, i was new to lifting back then - and looking to get back into it now


what's the best TKD you've run across?
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:22 PM

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sadly, i actually weigh even more than that now...  and yes, i was new to lifting back then - and looking to get back into it now


what's the best TKD you've run across?


the best tkd? it's a diet in general, theres not specific ones really.   a ckd would probably be better for a cut, could keep you more sane too lol
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RE: Keto/Anabolic Diet - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:24 PM
Ahh ok... think i'll try the Anabolic...
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