AST 19-Norandrostenedione 250...good?

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HereticIV

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AST 19-Norandrostenedione 250...good? - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:43 AM ( #1 )
I' ve been a " body builder" for a while now however since I started law school and had a shoulder injury I have been unable to really get back into the gym for over a year now! OUCH! I' m now rededicated to getting back into the swing of things and I heard great things about 19-Nor. I heard there are very low chances of side effects and great gain potential. I' ve done Andro in the past and really didn' t have much success (I used some " poppers" or some such crap). I' ve read up on the AST 19-Nor and it seems like great stuff. I' m looking to gain strenth and mass while leaning up a bit. Should I really take two doses a day, that would be 500mg with the last 250 about 30min before I workout at night. Also, should I wait a month or so to start up since I have not lifted a weight in over a year...well I haven' t had a true routine in over a year. Any advice or help would be great. Thanks again.
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RE: AST 19-Norandrostenedione 250...good? - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:22 AM ( #2 )
First, don' t use any prohormones until you are at least at your all time largest. You should see easy gains until then.

Each successive cycle will produce fewer results so save it.

Second, I am not a big fan of AST for prohormones. Other companies are superior.

Third, I am not a big fan of 19-Nor. I much prefer 1-test with or without 4-ad. While it is true that less androgenic sides occur, less anabolic effects will occur as well. Still I have seen some with good results, and you' ll probably yeild better results if used with your first cycle.

Personally I saw no effects in three weeks taking 1 gram a day, transdermally. BTW, transdermal is more effective so 1 gram a day orally would not be the same transdermally.
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RE: AST 19-Norandrostenedione 250...good? - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:05 AM ( #3 )
Thanks for the advice. I was looking for something that would provide minimal health risks with relativly good gain potential and get me back on track to get up to my top physical condition where I was about 2 years ago. Now I' m a fat ass and weak too! I guess the best thing would be to lose some fat first then just eat right and have enough discipline to keep in the gym and not get discouraged early on...that is what always kills me by the way, I get depressed because I remember who I ' was' and just get pissed off and demoralized. I' ve tried creatine and crap like that and I' m a non-responder. In fact my best strength gains were made senior year of college on Xenadrine, running 2 miles a day and never eating. Crazy! I weighed about 170lb, 5' 9" and put up about 250lbs on bench and around 450lbs squat. Those were the days...
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RE: AST 19-Norandrostenedione 250...good? - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:38 AM ( #4 )
If you lift hard, and eat right, you should be primed to make serious gains AND fat loss in 6 months.

One supplement you may want to look into is Leptigen. If you are dieting it will be immensely helpful in promoting an anabolic state. It will also keep hormone levels in check when dieting taht would otherwise plumet, allow the diet to be easier, and help you keep on track.

I discussed it hear a bit in another thread and you can find out more at www.avantlabs.com or click on the featured sute link to the left.
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