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Monday, June 01, 2009 6:04 PM
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A couple of good programs I feel people might find useful. Day 1 - Heavy Push - ALL 3X5 Squat Flat Barbell Press Incline Barbell Press Weighted Dips Day 3 - Light Pull - ALL 3X8-10 Deadlift BB Row Pullup Chins or DB Curls Day 4 - Light Push - ALL 3X8-10 Squat OH Press Flat Bench Press Weighted Dips Day 5 - Heavy Pull - ALL 3X5 Deadlift BB Row Pullup Chins or DB Curls Of course, you can always add in grip work, rotator cuff work or abdominal work. Here's another by Mike Menzer Monday A-1: Military Press A-2: Pull-up B-1: Deadlift Wednesday A-1: Bench Press A-2: Bent-over row B-1: Squat Friday A-1: Military Press A-2: Pull-up B-1: Deadlift Above is a WORKOUT A / WORKOUT B, it's not always going to look like that, it switches weekly like Rippetoes Starting Strength. Here is another. Day 1 - Chest & Biceps Flat Bench Press Incline Bench Press Chins Dips Day 2 - Legs & Shoulders Squat Lunges Clean & Press << fits as both leg and shoulders BO Posterior Deltoid Raises Day 3 - Back & Triceps Deadlift BB Row Pullup Triceps Extensions Day 4 - Chest & Legs Squat Flat Bench Incline Bench Weighted Dips Day 5 - Back & Biceps Deadlift BB Row Pullup Chins Day 6 - Shoulders & Triceps OH Press Lateral Raise BO Lateral Raise Skull Crushers or Triceps Extensions Alright so there's a couple of good programs people might want to try. Hopefully this thread will benefit someone
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Monday, June 01, 2009 6:27 PM
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Awesome, good job.
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Monday, June 01, 2009 6:33 PM
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Thanks bro!
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Monday, June 01, 2009 7:15 PM
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I think the push pull one is very ballin. I might have to use that next week and jump off max effort for a month or so. It's so damn taxing.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Monday, June 01, 2009 7:31 PM
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Yeah the first one - push/pull in a four day version is phenomenal routine. I'm going to try smoundzous program once I get back to bulking whenever I reach 160lbs @ 9-10% bodyfat. But after that one of those programs above ^ is likely to be what you'll see me using. The push/pull one allows sufficient recovery but not too much recovery. Muscle groups utilized is depended upon the force you're using, for example: when you "push" things you use the chest, anterior delts and triceps; when you "pull" you use the back, usually the posterior chain, posterior deltoids and the biceps. So each muscle group is used evenly and with sufficient recovery periods.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:35 PM
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Perrynaytor I think the push pull one is very ballin. I might have to use that next week and jump off max effort for a month or so. It's so damn taxing. Agreed. I am going to stick with 5x5 right now but after that I am going to try that routine. Looks pretty interesting.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:41 PM
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Moodster I am going to stick with 5x5 right now but after that I am going to try that routine. Looks pretty interesting. Always stick with your program if you're making gains - don't change something until you stop making gains...progression is what we train for regardless on how we progress.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:49 PM
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The program I'm doing right now is something like this: DAY 1 - 4x10-12 Squat Flat BB Bench Press One arm DB rows Seated BB shoulder press Lateral pulldown DAY 2 - 3x8 Deadlifts Incline BB bench press cable rows Seated BB shoulder press Lateral pulldown DAY 3 - 5x5 Squats Flat BB bench press One-arm DB rows Standing BB OH Press Lateral pulldown At the end of each day, I would throw in some isolations for my arms or delts. I don't see anything harmful with throwing in some isolations as long as I focus on progressing on the compound movements, and still have high energy level at the end of a workout (which I always have). Anyway, thought I would share my program since it's been working well to me. Hope you don't mind MVP.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:54 PM
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That looks like a good program; reminds me of smoundzous program. If I were to do it I'd do it like this though. Day 1 - 3 X 10 Day 3 - 3 X 8 Day 5 - 3 X 5 Using 5lbs more each session than the previous session, just me though.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:12 PM
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I increase the weights little by little each session. Any particular reason why change the number of sets?
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:15 PM
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All sets contain 3 sets. 3 X 10 3 X 8 3 X 5
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:17 AM
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I like the push/pull routine you put up it looks nice and I would definitely would do something like that when I get stuck on what I'm doing (3xfullbody workout). Looks like it will allow me to recover better on that one!!! I think there is a typo on the days don't you mean Day 2 instead of Day 3 lol... so it will be push/pull then rest day then push/pull again with the weekend for rest.
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:18 AM
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No, there's no typo. Day 1 is a heavy push day and there is a break after each heavy day for recuperation purposes.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:36 PM
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Oh makes sense I was thinking of the pattern like lower/upper split lol.
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:36 PM
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I'll add one of those too to the list later on.
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 7:17 PM
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Here's another. Day 1 - Upper Pull Barbell Row Pullup Face Pulls DB Curls Lower Push Squat Leg Press Lunges Leg Extensions Upper Push Flat Barbell Press Standing Barbell Press Incline Press Weighted Dips Lower Pull Deadlift Power clean Hamstring Curls Hanging Leg Raises
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Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 AM
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A GOOD PROGRAM EXPANDS. A couple of years ago, we began a Transitional First Grade class at West Union. Elementary. The class was designed for those
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Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:33 PM
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I thought I'd throw this one in here, too. Workout A - Legs, Chest and Biceps Squat SLDL Bench Press Incline Bench Press Dips Curls Workout B - Back, Triceps and Shoulders OH Press BO Lateral Raise Triceps Extensions Pullup BB Row Deadlift
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Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:10 PM
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MVP I thought I'd throw this one in here, too. Workout A - Legs, Chest and Biceps Squat SLDL Bench Press Incline Bench Press Dips Curls Workout B - Back, Triceps and Shoulders OH Press BO Lateral Raise Triceps Extensions Pullup BB Row Deadlift This one is pretty interesting MVP. I suppose you workout 3 times a week, alternating between workouts.
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Monday, June 22, 2009 9:32 AM
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5'8.1" Age = 20 started in February 16th 2007: 58kg (127.6lbs) current : around 79-80kg (173.8lb-176lb)
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Monday, June 22, 2009 1:07 PM
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Yeah I believe that routine is already posted, PureNatural was the guy that told me about the push/pull program while I was still a beginner struggling for results, I tried the routine and put on about 25lbs of mass, quick, my strength gains shot up too. I believe in one twelve week cycle I went from maxing 175 on bench presses to maxing 230. When I do them now- push pull set ups and I'm currently on a 2X push and 2X pull version and like it, I just don't like doing overhead presses and bench presses on the same day now. The routine I posted the workout a - legs, chest and biceps and workout b- back, shoulders and triceps are for the guys that like a lot of movements in one day, it's generally a good set up, has the basic movments a hip extension movement, knee extension, and will result in hitting all muscle groups pretty hard.
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Monday, June 22, 2009 1:23 PM
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I designed this one for a guy a while back- I'll add it in. Day 1 - Chest & Back "A" - Flat Bench Press - 3 X 10
- Barbell Row - 3 X 10
- Pullup - 3 X 10
Day 2 - Legs & Shoulders "A" - Squat - 3 X 10
- Military Press - 3 X 10
- BO Lateral Raise - 3 X 10
Day 3 - Arms - Barbell Curls - 3 X 10
- Triceps Extensions - 3 X 10
- Skull Crushers or close grip bench presses - 3 X 10
Day 4 - Chest and Back "B" - Incline Bench Press - 5 X 5
- Decline Bench Press - 5 X 5
- Pullup - 5 X 5
Day 5 - Legs & Shoulders "B" - Deadlift - 5 X 5
- Military Press - 5 X 5
- BO Lateral Raise - 5 X 5
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Monday, June 22, 2009 6:23 PM
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Yeah, I tried PureNatural's suggestion and added a lot too. The great thing about his setup is that it is so simple that it allows you to concentrate on the most important lifts. Even if you stall on it, you can always reduce the weight, and try to climb back up again, or even try switching to a different exercise (ex. flat bb bench to flat db bench, etc) before switching back again. The routine that I am currently doing is kind of a split routine. Though I can't wait to get back to the same style of training again when I am back to Singapore. :) BTW, another good suggestion on the last routine MVP.
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Monday, June 22, 2009 6:35 PM
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Yeah- PureNatural is a great guy, has a lot of knowledge for his age too- He PM'ed me a while back saying he was going to start posting again he's just been busy lately- He'll return soon enough. The push/pull set up is pretty much, IMO, the best routine for a complete beginner- It put on more mass on me than I could ever had believed. It just allows you, as you stated, to focus on the primary movements which are the REAL mass builders, and allows you to focus on increasing those lifts instead of just doing hundreds of sets.
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Monday, June 22, 2009 11:29 PM
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trubeginner The program I'm doing right now is something like this: DAY 1 - 4x10-12 Squat Flat BB Bench Press One arm DB rows Seated BB shoulder press Lateral pulldown DAY 2 - 3x8 Deadlifts Incline BB bench press cable rows Seated BB shoulder press Lateral pulldown DAY 3 - 5x5 Squats Flat BB bench press One-arm DB rows Standing BB OH Press Lateral pulldown Thanks for sharing this- I like this routine. It's a true full body routine with loads of frequency, volume, intensity and movement variation- Not much more you could ask for. But thanks, definitely for including this routine- It's been one of my favorites listed so far.
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Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:53 PM
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Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:32 PM
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Day 1 - 100% Push Day/ 50% Pull Day Push: (Pectoralis Major,Deltoids and Triceps Brachii) 1. Barbell Bench Press 4x8 1. Barbell Military Press 4x8 2. Cable lateral raises ( side) 3x12 1. CGBP 3 x 12 1. T-Bar rows 3x12 2. Front pulldowns 3x12 Day 2 - 50% Push Day/ 100% Pull Day Push: (Pectoralis Major,Deltoids and Triceps Brachii) 1. T-Bar Rows 4x 8 2. Front pulldowns 4x 10 3. Dumbbell Rows 3x 6 1. Barbell Curls 4x8 (2x8 medium grip, 2x8 wide grip) 1. Barbell Incline Press 2x12 2. Flat Flys 2x12 1. Dumbbell Military Press 3x12 Day 3 - off Day 4 - off Day 5 - Lower 1 100% volume Hamstring dominant 50% volume Quad dominant 1. Squats 4x6 2. Lunges 4x10 1. SLDL 3x10 Day 6 - Lower 2 100% volume quad dominant 50% volume Hamstring dominant 1. Dead Lifts 4x6 2. Leg press 3x10 3. Leg Curls 3x10
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Re:A couple of good programs
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Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:34 PM
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For the Days 1-6 workouts, do you do that every week or switch out with other exercises?
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Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:15 PM
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Which program?
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