Was wondering what you guys thought of this product/had heard.

Is it just another over-hyped product with manipulated studies to back it up, TwinPeak?

Thanks,
Bryan

I don' t think Pat' s study is manipulated. For those who do not know, his study (done by an independent lab), showed that at 600 mg daily in a (6 week?) peroid estrogen was down about 25% and test levels doubles.

Why do I trust it? I trust Pat. Not sure that is a good enough reason, ut its mine.

Though, this is an expensive way to go. Personally, I have tried it and not noticed much, in the way of gains, in 4 weeks.

It is a great post prohormone cycle supplement though.

I' d not use this seeking mass gains, though at 400 mg daily, while cutting it would be worthwhile.

i read an article in "muscular development" magazine that said it wasn't too good for you or too effective. the writer said the only people, he knew, who were using a 6-oxo supplement were hitting cycles of steriods. he said for them, it didn't really matter if it wasn't so good for you because they were juicing anyway. i haven't taken the stuff personally so i don't know any details; it's just what i read, thats all.