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5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 4:19:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Ultimates nutrition ebta methoxy claims that this product should give steroid like gains, what do you think?
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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 6:55:57 AM   
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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 7:33:35 AM   
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Could you recommend some supps?

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 7:45:41 AM   
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Should I just start listing them, or would you like to tell me your goals?

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 8:33:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Agree. Methoxy was dropped by a lot of companies. Mainly because the amount you would need to ingest to get any gains was ridiculous.

The only redeeming quality of these products happened to be that the quality of protein in them was really good. So if you can get it at a very deep discount, it might be worth it.

But steroid like gains? No.

You would be best to stick to a whey protein and a casein type for nights.

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 10:39:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		is whey really that important i just got the simple protein, should get teh whey?
yes twinpeak would be cool if you could list, i have 2 times a week hard basketball training, would be nice if you could read my post

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/16/2003 1:02:28 PM   
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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 7:32:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am sorry, I was being fasicious. I have neither the time, nor inclination to list every effective supplement in existence for every purpose.

If you stated your goals, perhaps I could help.

I will check out the link and see if that provides any detail.

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 10:18:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My main concern is mass, at the height of 6´1 i weigh 181lbs im 16 and i get 2 times per week 2-3 hours basketball training offseason and 3 times in season plus games on weekends(no way that i can gain muscle in season! so there is only 2 months till season starts, and i want to pack on 5-10lbs, it would be awsome! I even concidered takin prohormones, but at my age i recognized that this is too dangerous and i should concentrate more on my nutrition than takin this stuff. I´m on a modified version of Max-Ot now and i have a 3 day upper split and once a week legs.

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 10:26:17 AM   
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and i want to pack on 5-10lbs


Once you stop the cardio (b-ball) in those 2 months, I bet with your eating more and working out, you will pack that on easy. And then it will burn off when the season starts as you do much more cardio then you can weights.

When you start your season, don' t be too concerned with mass. Bottom line, you are doing too much cardio. 2-3 of practice.. Lots of calories being burned there. But the good news is.. you enjoy it and you can adjust once the season ends.

So I' d concentrate mostly on nutrition. As you can use that all year round. Once you stop doing the cardio, you will probably put on 5-10lbs of good mass quickly as you will be eating right, training hard with weights, and not doing as much cardio.

However, maybe when you get back to the season, and are a little bigger, you will get cut. That could be kinda cool! Smile

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 10:49:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good idea, but how do you think i can tell my coach " hey Coach i´m gonna skip practice for 2 months cuz i have to bulk" ,lol. I won´t be in the team anylonger.
But as you see, Nba players, i know they are elite-athlets play tons of ball in offseason and still gain 10lbs(e.g. Kobe Bryant), Crazy Genes + Hard work + maybe drugs.Cut like hell and musculuar.

Hopefully the coach focuces more on individual training(moves,shot,technique->fundamentals) more then running. jumping and stuff. when season starts i´m gonna get a weightgainer because it is hard as hell with 3 tinmes a week training and weekend games/tournements.

Ok, i´m 16 now, most coaches and players tell me leave time for lifting later, but i can compete so much better and more aggressive since i gained 10lbs from 1 year serious lifting. And why should i stop?

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 10:59:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		You shouldn' t stop. You have the right idea. If I didn' t mention it in your other thread, you need to do some serious static stretching to keep the increased muscle mass flexible.

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 11:02:28 AM   
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you need to do some serious static stretching to keep the increased muscle mass flexible.


Second that comment. As you get bulkier, your flexibility will decrease if you don' t actively do something about it.

And considering you play ball, flexibility is kinda important.

Good call Twin Peak! Smile

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RE: 5-Methyl-Methoxy-Isoflavone??? - 7/17/2003 11:05:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		yes i do tons of strethcing 3 times per day, scared of gettin unflexible!

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