18 days and on son

170 Lbs atm, aiming for 180-85 by the end of the 18 days mark, probly 200 in the long run.

So as told in other threads I acquired myself a weight gainer. It should last me for 18 days and starting today, I will start a journal, post my diet, my workouts and my life, and go on with it and see if my weight gainer will do any good.

Basically what I expect to see is a 5-15 pounds ( I hope 10-15) by the end of the 18 days, might be alot, might be too little, how do I know, that's what I'm experiencing.

According to a quick way to see how many cals I need ( my height times 18) I need 3060 cals but recently I just got a job which is a standing up job, which requires alot of crouch-get up, walking, pulling, pushing and walking.. plus theres tons of nice lookin girls there so I end up walking more than I actually should.. That makes me add a good 300 cals.

I also have a Uber fast metabolism and I really want to see gains while on a bulk diet with my weight gainer. I've never actually watched what I ate to see myself grow and stuff, I would pretty much go randomly so I don't have any idea how many cals I need... add another 200.

That sums up to 3560 cals a day which sounds fairly good as I think this is a diet alot of bigger dudes end up on... ( caloric wise) so I guess I should see something going from there.

the day is not done and haven't worked out yet so I'll post later tonite for the first day eh


OOh by the way didn't post the workout, I don't remember where I picked it up, I found it on this forum I believe ( smoud maybe?)

Monday legs
Squats 5x5 +5 pounds each weeks
SLDL 3x8-10 +5pounds each weeks
Calves 3-4xfailure +5pound each weeks
Abs

Wednesday chest
Bench 5x5+5 each workout
Db Bench 2x 8-10 + ? each workouts
Closegrip Bench 3x5 +5-10 pounds each workout
Skullcrushers 3x15 +5 pounds each workouts
Maximum Pushups 1x (I'll try to 1up each time at least)

Friday Back
Deadlift 5x5 +5 each weeks
BB rows 3x6-8 + 5 each weeks
BB curls 5x5 + 5 each weeks
1 arm DB rows 5x5 +5 each weeks


I'm talking about bulking.. and this seems like a str workout.. but if you go with theorys, + calories = weight gains.... so idk I might keep this routine, it looks tight, but I might change it sometimes.. I really dont know. Today is legs, I'll let you know what happens later.

I also forgot ( again ). My diet part won't display carbs,proteins and such. I'll just name the foods and the calorie + a total at the end, I don't really bother with telling the carbs, proteins and such cause #1- I know I get enough of em, #2 I assume all of you pretty much know what is rich in protein and what is not, so you can tell for yourself... If I'll mention either chicken,salmon or other sources of big foods I'll usually get me 6-12 oz pieces so that pretty much tells u ( I guess.)

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

I just scanned your post real quick, but 2 things:

10-15 lbs in 18 days?  You feeling okay?
You're not working your shoulders?

well yea I'm still new to gain ! Idk what seems right and what seems wrong to gain in x amount of time, Basically ( I think it'll answer both question / remarks in the same time) I say 10-15, that's dumb even new or not I should know its pretty much impossible, I mean by that that I wish a good amount of weight gain to know that either yes weight gainer helped me ( cause it does boost my calories quite alot at the end of the day) or it didn't do much and I don't buy any of it after, you know? kind of a tryout. On this ''tryout'' i'm trying to stick to big compound lifts on seperated days.... known basics, So squats,bench and deadlift with some other compounds and isos on this day. I though about shoulders too and then I though that bench works it pretty fine, and it's only for 18 days I don't really think the shoulders will lag behind in the end.

hope it answers

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

Take out either BB or DB bench and replace it with overhead press.  Trust me.

Also take out the DB rows and replace them with pullups

if you want more help gaining weight make sure you take creatine monohydrate , nothing fancing pure powered form cheap and effective
 
take 10 and possibley up to 15 grams a day ,
 
pre workout with simple carbs 5g's one tspn
post in your shake 5g's
and on your off days 5 g's in the morning when you wake
 
also cheap is some NO2 can find it at walmart bodyfortress
take 3 caps pre workout
and 3 caps post workout
 
it will help your body absorb nutrion better
also great pumps
 
fish oil - GOOD
 
i paid for all this at walmart less than 30 bucks and got about 2 months worth

bench - 305 lbs
squat - 505 lbs
dead - 550 lbs
only with a belt i dont care for suits

ORIGINAL: NBSFighter

Take out either BB or DB bench and replace it with overhead press.  Trust me.

Also take out the DB rows and replace them with pullups

Yea I might remove that db bench and go for a overhead press, and switch for db bench later.. mixing things up. I would love to do the pull ups but I just moved in a new house and the door far isn't as wide as the one in the other house, thus I will need to do some thingies on the frame so it fits, but I will definitely get some pull ups going on soon no doubt about it... I miss them alot.




About that creatine monohydrate, there is creatine monohydrate in my weightgainer but it's only 2.5g per 2 scoop or 4 scoop I don't remember... anyway I don't really want to get into creatine. Not that I'm scared of it, I just dont see the point, IMO creatine is like an illusion... u don't really get bigger and the strength increase isn't that significant for me to spend money on it.. Maybe I'm wrong tho, I would need to do some researches on that. I know it's cheap ( 30 bucks for all that for 2 months is quite nice ) but yea, I owe my mom some dollars, I didn't have a job for a whole year now and still been spending like crazy. it's getting back in place tho! had 4 shifts of 9 hours this week... it's pretty nice on this job cause you don't really go the time go by... it's fun job.


Anyway got done with my workout. Not really satisfied... didn't complete all reps as I wanted to and I didn't really took time I should have on squats ( took wayy too much IMO... tv is a distraction). I got the squat form down, now It seems I have a bar placement problem? When I squat I kinda have strain on my spine bone in both ends... I hold it pretty high.. should I lower it?

Anyways this week went here

Squats 5x5 115 lbs
SLDL 3x8-10 70lbs
Calve raises  3-4 110 lbs ( going to boost the weights.. I do too many reps on that)
and numerous abs workout.. not gonna detail them, you all know them.

Next time I'm definitely going to try to avoid TV and focus on more intensity and problem going to drop weight on squats... I may be able to work the form more and I started maybe a little too high to add 5 pounds each workout anyway..



Now for the diet... This too I might want to work it a little bit.. it's kinda messy. I don't actually take the calories I need then break it into 6 meals a day.. I just eat and try to top my caloric goal so it don't end up really nicely... ( I think ).

woke up at 6h30.

7h30> breakfast 2 peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a glass of chocolat milk, the milk counted for 2 portions, the peanut butter and jelly too. this goes 780 cals... hard to take really early when I wake up... I don't usually eat when I just woke up.

10:15> I had to leave for work and got late so I actually forgot to bring snacks.. ends up with only a 7up on my break... 150 cals tho i'm not sure it counts since it's not really food.

12:00> Lunch time! my house is like 5 min on a med-quick walk so I went home grab a bistro dinner for 300 cals, I took it with a weightgainer shake (2 tbsp peanut butter, 1 banana, 2 cup of milk and 2 scoops ) end up leaving back for work with 1285 cals and food for the nxt break.

2h45>was my second and last break of the day. Got uno  nature valley bar a nestea and a 7up agein.. I brought a banana and a nestea but didn't feel like having em so I end up with 250 cals.

5h00> shift is done, go home and I eat a banana and my nestea I didn't take earlier on, 210 cals.

19h30: dinner, I got a piece of salmon and white converted rice that turns out to be 538 cals. I also had desert that was fruits in a can.. Now that's weird and I'll explain that I always down count my calories so basically I don't under reach them but preferrable over reach them... i.e these fruits, it's supposed to be like 90 cals for 1/4 of a cup.. but on the measuring cup a piece of fruit reachs for like 1/2 of the cup and I ended up having a bowl that looked like 2 full cups ( basically 4 cup... confusing uh) so it should be tons of calories right there but I only counted them as 100.

I worked out and now going to go make myself my last meal/shake of the day. same as the first one so 2tbsp peanut butter, 1 banana, milk and 2 scoops that should do 505 or more cals ( depending on what milk is left I might pick something else).

Ending cals count: 3818... WHich is probably way over what I eat usually.. I don't really know.


There is alot of place for improvement I know. Diet is very messy, some snacks could use more and better quality foods and I'm still very weak on my lifts ( you can see my squat.. very poor for a 17 year old I believe) so.. Not only do I expect growth but alot of improvement for this to turn out from chore to life style...

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

10-15lbs in 18 days - possible

10-15lbs of MUSCLE in 18 days - NOT possible.

You need some realistic goals there buddy.

5'6" 125/ Bench: 115 / Front squat: 90 / Deadlift: 205 / Pullups: 10

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hehe yea like i said I dunno why I said 10-15 pounds of muscle, Pretty much just need to see improvements... I really like bbing but I really hate not seeing results... Like mentioned I got 3,8k calories today and like i said I under count em, my weight gainers dont really only give 505 they give up like 800-1000 each cause of all the peanut butter,bananas and milk i put in, that rice i counted for 1 cup but that was probly 2... and the fruits etc etc etc.. Just recently I saw Yet post about him getting in a car accident ( hope ur alright ) and said he would normaly intake 3k some cals... while i touch the 4k.. You can always tell me a routine might not work on some people when it works for you.. I may believe that. but dont tell me if 3,5 calories works him which is much bigger, it won't work for me.. if I get what ronnie colemans get in one day trust me i'd get big!


wait.... body types... nvm but anyway i'm pretty sure it should work I'M CONVINCED! I'M A WARRIOR!...lol






I'm also going to try and not get my shakes just before sleeping... I'm going to have to time my stuff better cause I heard carbs just before bed turns to fat and in that shake its like 84 carbs in 2 scoops... that's-a-lot

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

IMO creatine is like an illusion... u don't really get bigger and the strength increase isn't that significant for me to spend money on it.. Maybe I'm wrong

 
 
im saying if you do use it more of that 10 to 15 pounds will be muscle yeah a little water but you will gain better with it you might even gain  20 to 25 pounds after you get off it you will lose 5 to 6 pounds but nothing major as long as u keep cals up you will be fine drink a ton of water and you'll minimize water bloating
 
i used it to go up to 282 pounds when i was off i only dropped 3 pounds
 
and my strengh stayed with me

bench - 305 lbs
squat - 505 lbs
dead - 550 lbs
only with a belt i dont care for suits

Interesting, I might look into it... I just got back from work and though that I dont like working out 3 days a week and wanna go for HST, Everybody did it and everybody had good results with it so I though I'll try it now that I think that I got a decent died to get some pounds on ( unlike when I was going 2,6k daily ) so yea... I think I'll go for a 4 day split.. something like wednesday/thursday upper/lower and saturday n monday full body. This way I'm going to try and get the results people had with it (i remember SFox saying alot of good things about that program) and with 4 working days I'll be able to work my neglected legs much more often than once a week ( 3 times on HST) as well as the rest of the my body. IDK what the routine will be yet.. going to browse the forums.

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

nothing for shoulders?

"Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated."
"The only thing you are guaranteed at birth is death. You have a right to that. The rest is earned."

Alright so it's going to be

Wednesday Upper

Bench press/db bench
Deadlifts w/ traps
BB/db rows ( will either add or replace by pull ups / chin ups soon)
Shoulders ( probly lateral, front and rear flies for now, I need to figure out something with my overhead concern)
maybe a few bicep isos ( one actually ) along with a tricep iso

Thursday Lower
Squats
SlDL
Calf Raises
Abs

Saturday full body
Bench
Deadlift w/traps
Squats
+ maybe biceps isos

Monday full body
Bench
Deadlifts w/traps
Squats
+ maybe chest dips and push ups


Reason to give isos to biceps and triceps is that I feel they lack in proportion to the rest of my body and I guess stronger biceps will aid my pull ups, deadlifts and my triceps will aid my bench, which needs alot of help at the moment.... Inputs?

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

Alright so I started Hst today and wanna go on with it till the end of the cycle.. Going to do :
1 week 3x15's
2 week 3x10's
2 week 5x5's
2 week 3x5's
(not sure its the good or a good rep set... tell me what you think)





LIGHT WEIGHT BABAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! yup I'm pretty much like ronnie coleman... except that I'm really using light weights... lol
there was 1 min - 1 min30s between sets and unknown time between exercises

Today I did a Upper body workout that went like this
22:38-23:27

3x15-85lbs Deadlifts

3x15-75lbs Bench Press

Supersetted ( no rest between exercises 1 min between sets )
15xBB rows 45 lbs
10xShoulder lateral raises 20 lbs

15xBB rows 45 lbs
10xShoulder reverse flies 20 lbs

15xBB rows 45 lbs
10xfront raises 20 lbs

BB e-z bar curls 2x10 - 60 lbs


That's it for the workout.. I feel so embarassed to show the weights I used lol :(

Anyways for the diet.

7h30 > peanut butter jelly time x2 with fruits and some kind of jelly candy... probly bad for me and even worst at that time of the day but hey ! i'm a teenager who cares! = 640 calories

10:30 nature valley bar plus same candys again and a nestea for 410 calories

12:00 I didn't plan to do a 9 hour shift this day. I was supposed to be done by 12 but my partner went to the hospital so I took his shift over till 5... thus a non prepared dinner and lunch for the rest of the day... I bought myself a microwaveable(hmmmh?) dinner and a red bull... simple 420 cals... disapointed cause this meal should be much bigger than a simple snack eh... but yea a collegue gave me such a nice idea, he bought himself french bread with some kind of spicied diced tomatos. He would dig a whole in the bread, stick tomatos there and eat it... sounds very healthy and is very good, I'll try that tommorow for sure.

5:30 weight gainer : 1 banana 2 scoop 2 tbsp peanut butter  for 785 calories.

9h30: 2 angus burger and wedge potatos for a big 730 calories! I was pretty amased by that because the potatos give something like 110 calories for 10 pieces which is what I had. I looked up the calories for the angus and it was 360 calories EACH burger... that blown me away as I didn't expect such a easy, small meal would give so many calories. I'm someone with such a small appetite and I could easily eat 3-4 of those! luckily we got more of those and asked mama to cook those more often. 

big total count : mere 2985 calories. I'm going to go get me a cup of fruit which would probably range in 200-400 calories and my last weight gainer of the day! should blase it to around 4k calories which is my expected average for each and every days. I don't like that situation tho, having to stuck calories in my mouth really fast so I can go to bed.. I hate un-planned events it totally messed me up but ah well... g-night


again, DONT LAFF AT THE WEIGHTS OR I .... JUST DONT DO IT!...

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

dont worry man i'm about to start using hst and i'll be using the curl bar for alot of stuff .
just curious where'd you find out about that rep scheme?
i'm starting monday and i'm doing
Week 1-2: 2x15
Week 3-5: 2x10
Week 6-8: 2x5
Goodluck though bro.

"Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated."
"The only thing you are guaranteed at birth is death. You have a right to that. The rest is earned."

I just guessed it cause I had no clue.. yours sound better

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175