110kg Deadlift

Now Chalky Palms won't feel so alone in this section anymore :P

Anyway, it's 242lb deadlift for 5 reps. Any critiques? I know it's not the best form, so hence why I'm posting it for some tips from you guys.

Added link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh5fbJPm_iA

My apologies to MVP =)

Am I missing something?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh5fbJPm_iA

Thanks for the feedback. Isn't my glutes suppose to be high?

I'll try to pull and bring it down faster. I probably could bring it down faster, but pulling might be difficult. It may not look like it in the video, but it was a very maximal effort. I feel though I was using my lower back to pull. You may see that my lower back is slightly rounded.

Just wondering, do you actually deweight for it each rep?

Deadlift stye is based on goals primarily.  If you are shooting for strength and numbers then you should do what Jane said and bring it down faster, deloading each rep.  If you are going for more of a bodybuilding type thing then you would be better off keeping it slow and controlled throughout with or without a complete deload to keep the tension. 

Your form looks more than fine to me, any rounding you had is minimal and looks to stay in place throughout the lift (unlike letting the weight round you out, which is bad). 

It looked easy though!  Strap on some more weights, nice job man.

Thanks for the tips.

I'll be attempting to increase it by 2.5kg each week, and I will try to pull+bring it down quicker as I'm mainly interested in strength.

Chuck a few more 45s on the side

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Erich Fromm

thanks for been so optimistic, but I don't think the weight would come off the floor if I did that =). That weight was my maximum effort, even though it didn't look like it.

I have a 25kg (red colour) and 20kg (blue colour) on each side of the bar. I've never heard of anyone mentioning about a 25kg/55lb plate on this forum. Is there such a standard plate?

Yep.

Good lifting Vdk! 110 for 5 is good.

Good effort! I reckon your upper back was a bit rounded though, that could be a problem in the future. But you made it look so easy. lol

Well done.

I was just talking to Wyrms before. I was wondering if anyone here actually utilises the techinique where you round your upper back to shorten the pulling distance, whilst maintaining your arch for your lower back?

If you watch on youtube 'Konstantine Kostanov', his is a exaggerated case, but he utilises a very rounded upper back.

I think these are style issues and are personal to the lifter to make the most of their body proportions and gain a little more leverage. What general practice might be advised against for the average gym enthusiast in the textbook deadlift may not apply to a pro powerlifter who focuses to deal with their style. This includes some subtleties which you would not pick up on easily from watching videos like having a loose upper body, only squeezing with the thumb, having the bar a little further away from the shin, keeping the head down longer etc.
Keep the style which will transfer coordination and strength to your other lifts. If you do cleans you should practice a deadlift which you would use there too.

vdk_au


I was just talking to Wyrms before. I was wondering if anyone here actually utilises the techinique where you round your upper back to shorten the pulling distance, whilst maintaining your arch for your lower back?

If you watch on youtube 'Konstantine Kostanov', his is a exaggerated case, but he utilises a very rounded upper back.

Wow that guy is awesome.  Although I haven't seen any recent videos, is he still around?
 

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Today I did 112.5kg deadlift and I got it :).

Hopefully I'll get 120kg in a few weeks if I can increase it linearly, and I'll post another video then. I tried pulling the weight faster, and dropping it down faster today (as advised by badass Jane :) ) and I think it actually helped alot. I'll be definietely using this from now on.

BTW, what I found kinda pathetic was about a month ago, a trainer was telling me that he could give me a free training session with him where he'd set me up with a routine. He was saying basically you need to "gain weight/muscle" to help with strength gains (which in his definition is higher reps). I never took it on board.

Even though his actually quite strong, he can bench like 85-90kg. Today I saw him and he was squatting a pathetic 50kg. Damn trainers. All the new trainers at the gym are so pathetic, teaching 1/4 squats... grrrr....I never ask them for advice.. I know I can rely on www.discussbodybuilding.com =)

looked good man, any nit picking is minimal some of the others have said it, good job!

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

its a pain but try to drag it on your shins. it makes sure u have the bar as close to your body and allows to sit back more and use more leg power. after saying that dnt completely pull back remember u wanna go up. pulling your shoulders at the top helps exagerate the lock out a bit but not too much. wear low shoes.   this is my powerlifting pointof view on DL hope it helps some

age.......19
weight..148
bench....290
squat....455
deadlift.465

Well my shins are pretty ugly, lol, because of deadlifts :)

I couldn't help it but your squats/deadlifts are 400lbs+ when you're only 148lbs? Is that for real? If so, I'd love to see a video of your deadlift!

http://www.youtube.com/...WVcU&feature=related

A guy the same weight as me, but deadlifting nearly double my weight, lol. His form doesn't look very good though, looks like he pulls with a rounded lower back, but then again ..205kg is alot of weight!

I was able to deadlift 117.5kg today for 5 reps. I then did a single rep at 127.5kg, and was easy as.

Bad news....Supposedly my form is not good according to the trainers at the gym. They said my whole back is rounded, and I like "snatch" the weight off the ground. I showed him that video that I posted in this thread, and he said the same thing. I start off with my back in place, but then as I lift it, I round my back. Can you guys confirm by watching the video again? I don't wanna be f**king my back up.

I'll be sticking with the same weight for next week.

I'm not happy about it but I might decrease the weight from 117.5kg to 110kg or maybe even less. I'm gonna try to improve my form as I do agree with the trainer that my lower back does round.

Your trainer is an idiot, your back rounding is minimal at best and you will be fine to continue increasing the weight.

Question:  If your rounding is minimal, there's not much to worry about?  Is there any post workout soreness/pain if the rounding is becoming too much or might something bad happen w/o warning?

hmm, lol I'm so confused, hahah...I might get a better quality video recording next week and see what you guys think. I'll increase it to 120kg then...

the trainer trains with very light squats and deadlifts. The thing is he told me yesterday, well he didn't actually say it directly but his wreck his back previously and that's why his been very careful with form now, and hence starting light weights.

in my experience the general trainers at the gym don't know anything about proper lifting

hahah everyone loves to bag trainers. Me too =). The trainers at my gym mostly train upper body and I see them teaching 1/2-3/4 squats to ppl.

This thread is filled with a whole lot of people who think they know everything. ;) haha

Seriously though, you can't judge a trainer or his accuracy and methodologies based on 'he squats 50kg'
That's really stupid logic. For all you know he might not even be a strength/power lifter, he could be a marathon runner.
So look outside the box before you point fingers.
With that being said, trainers can indeed be dodgy, but not all of them, don't generalize. And from my experience, most of the trainers at RMIT know their stuff.

I'm gonna be straight-up, just rewatched it again.

The 110kg Deadlift video showed promise around the start, but mid-way through to the end your back did not reflect a whole lot of structural integrity.

You want everything to be smoothed out. You want the lordotic and kyphotic curves in the back to be optimal for a Deadlift if you don't wanna screw anything up by adding on poundage.

I already said this to you but I'll reinforce it, and I'm 100% confident when I say this:
The Deadlift is NOT an exercise you wanna f_ck around with.
If your form isn't ideal and you keep adding on the weight, then chances are one day something's gonna go wrong, you might get lucky but I'd prefer to be safe than sorry.

And I'd rather be doing less weight and getting my form very near perfect than trying to show off to a bunch of clowns and then tearing my erector or promoting disc herniation.

Up to you. But especially after watching that vid from a PROFESSIONAL viewpoint (though I acknowledge how old it is), I'm honestly gonna say it wasn't the best.

Wyrms, I hope my comment didn't offend you however I have had no luck with the YMCA trainers. Just last week I asked a trainer about romanian deadlifts and her response was "whats that?". I then went on to talk about barbell deadlifts and she still didn't know what i was talking about. She then went to go get some dumbbells to show me some other back crap while telling me she just doesn't know what it is because "they always change the names".

Really???

lmao, I'm sure he'll be fine with those comments....

JMBS


Question:  If your rounding is minimal, there's not much to worry about?  Is there any post workout soreness/pain if the rounding is becoming too much or might something bad happen w/o warning?

I don't like to say rounding is ok because in most cases it is not.  If the weight rounds your back out as you pull then you should lower the weight.  If you are able to keep your back fairly stiff and maintain an arch in your lower back you will be fine.  A round back that doesn't move is just as safe as a stiff back that doesn't move.